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John Esposito and Me

by Daniel Pipes
Mon, 10 Sep 2007
updated Thu, 28 Feb 2008

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On August 18, Georgetown University professor John Esposito spoke in Dallas for a Council on American-Islamic Relations fundraiser intending, as he put it, "to show solidarity not only with the Holy Land Fund [sic, Holy Land Foundation], but also with CAIR." The event at the Renaissance Dallas Hotel took place as the Holy Land Foundation trial was underway, day-by-day implicating CAIR ever more clearly with Hamas, a proscribed terrorist organization.

Georgetown University professor John Esposito.

About a minute into his talk, out of the blue he predicts that his talk that evening will be "by tomorrow morning … on certainly Daniel Pipes' website if not a number of others." He then recounts giving a lecture at the University of Chicago, quoting himself addressing me then, "And I'm sure, Daniel, you've got people there who will be out there tomorrow." Indeed, he continues, "it was out on the web. I don't know if it was Pipes, but the next morning I googled my name and there it was, ‘Esposito in Chicago'."

Comment: No, John, I don't stalk you. Yes, I did note your CAIR-sponsored talk at the University of Chicago, but I drew on public sources for that, as you can see by going to what I wrote. And in Dallas, the person who attended your talk had nothing to do with me or my organization. Still, I am glad to be on your mind when you address CAIR – given that you don't allow any protestors at your events, it's probably a good way for both you and it to recall just how fringe your views are.

Then, about a half hour into the talk, Esposito decries the Muslim tendency to complain about things among themselves, spinning wheels, and brings me in as a contrast both to them and to himself:

I mean, you know, what does Daniel Pipes do? He gets people to fund him. And he's all over the country. He's on every screen. He'll take the time. And a lot of times it's a pain in the neck. I don't do some of the media now, simply because you know, you've got travel, 45 minutes to get to a station to be on for 5 minutes.

Comment: There's no compliment like a back-handed one, John, and I'll take this one. (September 10, 2007)

Feb. 15, 2008 update: Oh no! Seems that Esposito was scolded for praising me and has now taken the opposite tack. Imagine, a grown man, a university professor even, resorting to calling a colleague silly names in the course of a high-fallutin' campus speech about "Dying for God? Suicide Terrorism and Militant Islam." Well, as described by Cinnamon Stillwell in "Esposito at Stanford," that's what happened on February 7:

Esposito displayed contempt for anyone calling for the theological and cultural reform of Islam. He described Middle East Forum director Daniel Pipes and Princeton professor Bernard Lewis as "among the Darth Vaders of the world," and Pipes and Islam scholar Robert Spencer as "Islamophobes." Others on the receiving end of Esposito's vitriol included Martin Kramer, Fouad Ajami, V.S. Naipaul, Max Boot, and Steven Emerson. Esposito has a penchant for laying into his opponents, but this juvenile behavior fails to answer the substance of his detractors' points.

Daniel Pipes as "Darth Vader."

Comments: (1) What can I say, John? I try still to bask in the glow of August's compliment, even if it has been rudely interrupted by February's rudeness.

(2) Robert Spencer, understandably riled at not being called a "Darth Vader" by Esposito, posted an amusing picture of himself dressed up as Darth Vader, courtesy of one of his Islamist admirers. That got me thinking: If John Esposito thinks I am "Darth Vader," then he must be right – and I got myself suitably done up.

(3) This is by no means my cinematic debut: for prior feature film roles, see "Islamists Make Me a Movie Star."

(4) On a serious note, this little incident confirms yet again how Islamist apologists resort to name-calling when they cannot reply on the issues.

Feb. 28, 2008 update: A second report on the same talk, this by Jonathan Gelbert in the Stanford Review, "Muslim Student Group Launches "Jihad" of Mixed Messages." After telling how Khaled About El Fadl had attacked me "an unnecessarily large number of times throughout his talk," Gelbert tells about Esposito:

Esposito also could not resist joining in on the Daniel Pipes-bashing. He went so far as to call him one of "the Darth Vaders of the world" and an "Islamophobe" who makes it difficult for people to know what to think about Islam. This last complaint is no surprise since Pipes's arguments indeed make it more difficult for people to blindly accept the rosy version of Islam which Esposito chooses to promote. As was the case with el-Fadl, the Pipes obsession only served to substantiate his influence and raise questions about why exactly MSAN's speakers are so afraid of him. If they truly had nothing to hide, they would welcome the constructive criticism which Pipes provides.

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