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Related Articles [Alastair Crooke's Conflict Forum and] Sharing Jokes with Hamas
by Daniel Pipes http://www.danielpipes.org/2545/alastair-crookes-conflict-forum-and-sharing-jokes-with-hamas Translations of this item: [Jerusalem Post title: "Please Don't Call It Terrorism"] Shortly after Yusra Azzami, 20, strolled with her fiancé and her sister on the beach in Gaza last week, the vigilantes from Hamas formed suspicions that she was engaged in "immoral behavior." They followed her, shot her dead as she sat in her fiancé's car, dragged her corpse out and mutilated it savagely with clubs and iron bars. This atrocity follows on Hamas having murdered over four hundred Israelis going about their daily business since 2000. Unsurprisingly, the American and other governments consider Hamas as a terrorist organization. But how do they deal with such an organization? Two very different approaches exist, and President George W. Bush has articulated them both. In June 2003, he stated that "the free world, those who love freedom and peace, must deal harshly with Hamas" and specified that "Hamas must be dismantled." Last month, however, he offered Hezbollah a chance to prove it's not a terrorist organization and redeem itself "by laying down arms and not threatening peace." This alarming second view builds on an outlook with growing support within the U.S. government. Many diplomats and intelligence officials believe, for example, that engaging the Muslim Brethren in Egypt (in the Washington Post's description) "offers an opportunity for political engagement that could help isolate violent jihadists." And Arabic-language news sources report that American officials in Egypt recently met with Muslim Brethren leaders. To forward this wrong-headed idea, an organization called the Conflicts Forum was founded in December 2004. It has the immodest goal of not just changing policy toward radical Islamic terrorist groups, but changing how Westerners see radical Islam itself. Conflicts Forum wants to challenge "the prevailing western orthodoxy that perceives Islamism as an ideology that is hostile to the agenda for global democracy and good governance." Conflicts Forum has several advantages, starting with the fact that what it terms the "prevailing Western orthodoxy" is – as noted above – quite soft. The group's founder and leader, Alastair Crooke, 55, was a ranking figure in both British intelligence and European Union diplomacy, someone who hobnobs with insiders, gives upbeat speeches at premier venues ("It is Essential to Negotiate with Terrorists" at the London School of Economics," "Can Hamas Be A Political Partner?" at the Council on Foreign Relations), and enjoys a fawning press. But Crooke's true identity came out in a clandestine meeting he held with the Hamas leadership in June 2002, at a time when he still represented the European Union. We have an account of the meeting prepared by Hamas (which Crooke claims is inaccurate). It deserves reading in full for an insight into Crooke's amoral, craven, appeasing, and dhimmi-like mentality.
This last fits Crooke's routine public dismissal of terrorism as a threat. The West, he says, faces not "terrorism" (his quote marks) but a distinctly less nasty "sophisticated, asymmetrical, broad-based and irregular insurgency." And his Conflicts Forum, dubbed by journalist Patrick Seale "a club of disaffected diplomats and intelligence officers," engages in a pleasant form of personal diplomacy that diminishes the horror of Islamist terrorism. Thus, at a Conflicts Forum meeting last month in Beirut with the leadership of four Islamist terrorist groups, including Hamas and Hizbullah, the mood and the food were too good to allow this inconvenient subject to intrude. Stephen Grey, a journalist covering the event, later reflected on it: "Invited to dinner with the participants in the Beirut talks, and sharing jokes with the Hamas men over tiger prawns, avocado, pasta and cherry tomatoes, I wondered privately how one would explain all this intimacy to the mother of a child killed by a suicide bomber." Conflicts Forum offers a seductive alternative to the hard business of waging and winning a war. Unfortunately, its wrong-headed, defeatist, and doomed approach amounts to preemptively losing the war. Its counsel deserves a round rejection. Official Response From Conflicts Forum
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| Title | Commenter | Date | Thread | ||
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| Jokes are good [45 words] | Elsi Vacano | Jan 12, 2007 20:58 | 72591 | ||
| Too long...Give a break!! [279 words] | Harish Ramaswamy | Dec 1, 2006 01:05 | 67926 | ||
| 1 | Reason trumps Emotion (Unless you're a fanatic...) [1377 words] | usesomelogic | Jun 8, 2006 14:52 | 47294 | |
| alastair Crook et.al. [110 words] | Simon Watney | Jun 5, 2006 04:10 | 47083 | ||
| The EU and Hamas [110 words] | Daniel Meturgan | May 5, 2005 15:47 | 22005 | ||
| Good Grief! [353 words] | Bruce | Apr 26, 2005 13:23 | 21828 | ||
Reply to Bruce [86 words] | Seamus MacNemi | Sep 12, 2007 00:08 | 21828 | ||
| Maybe It Has Something to Do With Their "Public" Schools [44 words] | Jake | Apr 23, 2005 10:03 | 21778 | ||
Reply to Jake [91 words] | Seamus MacNemi | Sep 12, 2007 00:29 | 21778 | ||
| Relativism [106 words] | Octavio Johanson | Apr 21, 2005 18:55 | 21760 | ||
| Muslim hatred [219 words] | Dan Katcher | Apr 21, 2005 15:14 | 21759 | ||
You said it RIGHT! Thank you! [348 words] | Donna | Jan 30, 2007 02:33 | 21759 | ||
Megalomania [70 words] | Gaspar Toci | Apr 21, 2008 23:46 | 21759 | ||
| Details & omissions [334 words] | C | Apr 21, 2005 11:32 | 21755 | ||
| Crookes hamas pals - the new nazis and their ally [345 words] | Rob Klein | Apr 21, 2005 10:08 | 21753 | ||
Hamazis: an apt title. [50 words] | Richard L. Kocher | Feb 19, 2006 09:52 | 21753 | ||
| What is Islam's Nature? [114 words] | Timothy B. Roberts | Apr 21, 2005 00:11 | 21751 | ||
Tolerance of intolerance? [57 words] | L Dixon | Mar 30, 2008 10:05 | 21751 | ||
| Diplomacy and Terrorism [105 words] | John | Apr 20, 2005 21:27 | 21750 | ||
| Wishful thinking [56 words] | Bernard Arkules | Apr 20, 2005 17:06 | 21743 | ||
| Let us go back to basics [189 words] | Octavio Johanson | Apr 20, 2005 14:43 | 21741 | ||
| Alastair Crooke - a coincidence? [30 words] | Peggy Kaz | Apr 20, 2005 14:14 | 21740 | ||
Reply to Peggy Kaz [53 words] | Seamus MacNemi | Sep 12, 2007 00:49 | 21740 | ||
| Our Man in the Trenches [182 words] | Dave M. O'Neill | Apr 20, 2005 12:12 | 21739 | ||
| Muslims do not hate our values. They hate our policies. [95 words] | Pat | Apr 20, 2005 12:11 | 21738 | ||
| Sharing Jokes with Hamas [13 words] | Herb Stone | Apr 20, 2005 10:55 | 21737 |
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