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Submitted by Octavio Johanson (Italy), Mar 30, 2006 at 01:28

Back in my country, I vote for the centre-left. I am not a conservative, and I am not right-wing. But, this isn't about Left and Right. If it was enough to vote for the Right to end the problem, then we would be out of trouble very easily.

This phenomenon of illegal immigration will only stop when the economic conditions of Europe will resemble the economic conditions of Less Developed Countries. At that point, there will be no more reasons to come here. We are going to see more of this, because current immigrants will call more people from their own countries. That will be true in Europe and in the USA. You go places where you know you will find people from your own country.

Europe is paying the price for petrol, and we are paying with open-borders. The USA are paying for NAFTA and free-trade. Now, if further immigration was stopped, integration would be so much easier. Older Immigrants would learn the language, marry local women, have children, and bring them up according to European mores. We are not even trying to do that. In Rotterdham, Holland, the local administration had to insist on the use of Dutch. The truth is that, in some parts of Europe, there are independent entities within the main country. In some French cities, you only find Islamic shops and Islamic butchers. In the case of Europe, immigration = Islam. Therefore, we are entitled to say something. The good immigrant is the one who marries a local girl, makes friends with local people etc. That's not necessary if people keep coming in.

The Danes had to ban people from importing wives from Muslim countries. In the USA, it is all about American corporations having their own interests in Mexico, and the Mexican Government encouraging people to move North. It is a bit different in Europe, but I can recognize some of the elements. It is the powerful who have been encouraging illegal immigration for 20 years. It is not the common man. Read the Economist: why do they support asylum seekers? Read the Financial Times and Le Monde (it is available in English, Sidda). Read the European edition of the Wall Street Journal. These are not ordinary people, these are the elite. These people represent big corporations and globalism.

If the common man complains about immigration, then the name-calling starts: "racist", "xenophobe", "Islamophobe", "bigot", "fascist". The big corporations want cheap labour and they want to move their activities to Less Developed Countries. Politicians want votes. Bureaucrats and law-enforcement officials don't want trouble. After seeing massive pro-immigration rallies, you wonder why the legal status of those protesters was not checked on the spot. Of course, if you say these things, then people call you a "Nehanderthal man". You are not. You are the common man, the one who will have to pay for this. Letting people come to Europe (or the USA) is not about racial tolerance. It has never been about racial tolerance. It is about power.
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inaccuracies [170 words]la chica k trabaja con gentes sin papelesMay 29, 2010 17:16173511
I agree [68 words]S. AnguilarAug 5, 2006 23:3351759
Differences between Europe and the USA [96 words]Octavio JohansonMar 26, 2006 11:1241409
Octavio - that is changing [827 words]SiddaMar 28, 2006 18:3741409
Sidda: that's a no-win situation [221 words]Octavio JohansonMar 29, 2006 01:4341409
More feedback for Sidda [134 words]Octavio JohansonMar 29, 2006 10:0041409
to Octavio [575 words]SiddaMar 29, 2006 17:4141409
I am not a conservative either! [504 words]Octavio JohansonMar 30, 2006 01:2841409
Conclusions [384 words]Octavio JohansonMar 30, 2006 03:0641409
immigration [77 words]bob graysonApr 12, 2006 00:0741409
Re: immigration [69 words]Octavio JohansonApr 12, 2006 08:0241409
Bob Grayson [211 words]Octavio JohansonMay 26, 2006 19:2041409
The I-word [71 words]Octavio JohansonMar 25, 2006 18:2541367
This is madness! [74 words]Wayne WagnerMar 20, 2006 15:4840826
Your readers and me [99 words]Octavio JohansonMar 20, 2006 01:5540757
I live in Spain [75 words]Octavio JohansonMar 20, 2006 05:3140757
Brother Octavio , Its hard to follow the rules sometimes !! [170 words]SinghDec 6, 2006 13:3240757
how to solve the Canary Island problem [278 words]MarkMar 20, 2006 00:3540755
Oh, Australia! [223 words]Octavio JohansonMar 20, 2006 04:4440755
I also live in Spain, further more I'm Spanish [98 words]Gonzalo MayordomoMar 26, 2006 11:3540755
Gonzalo [17 words]Octavio JohansonMar 27, 2006 03:5040755
Point 3 is no solution [231 words]Farid H.Apr 6, 2006 14:0940755
EU-camps not possible [85 words]MikeApr 28, 2006 06:5340755
Sorting the canary island problem [98 words]rienMay 13, 2006 09:0740755
Immigration is necessary for development but Muslim Immigrants are Threat to Europe [61 words]BillooDec 6, 2006 13:1040755
South Africa has the same problem [218 words]Josh SmithApr 13, 2007 23:2040755
1The problem of illegal migration [323 words]Mary ConnorDec 3, 2007 22:0940755
right [8 words]Einsten SpearsJan 11, 2009 22:5840755

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