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Will There Be a Fifth Round?

Reader comment on item: The Key Issue of Hamas vs. Israel

Submitted by Alex B (Canada), May 27, 2021 at 23:30

Dr. Pipes this interview was excellent because it touched on most but not all of the major issues that the state of Israel is facing and its chance to survive in the sea of hostility on this planet. One important issue that has negative impact on the strengths of Israel is the internal ideological and personal strife between Jews which weakens Israel significantly. I have several comments in which

I respectfully differ from your view as you expressed it in this interview.

The first deals with the key issue if there will be fifth-round of fighting between Hamas and Israel. As I understood your position you stated that the Israelis will make sure that there is no fifth-round. I wonder how they can achieve that if they were not able to prevent the current round. My opinion is that the way Israel is conducting this existential war that will be not only fifth-round, but there will be 6th, 7th, etc. Israel's high score on happiness rankings, enjoying rule of law and democracy notwithstanding I have my doubts if Israelis will not abandon the country when the recurring wars will destroy the developed economy and the incited Israeli Arabs joined by mujahedin infiltrated from the West Bank, Gaza, Lebanon, and Syria will shred the high level of personal security to pieces. It is reasonable to expect that Hezbollah, Iran Syria and Turkey will join the fray. Libya and Pakistan will not be able to resist taking part as well.

You predicted in March 2012 that there will be crisis between the Israelis and their Muslim compatriots, but Israel did not want to confront the problem. You were not the first that predicted this looming crisis. Rabbi Kahane raised it in 1981, 30 years before you and Israel confronted the problem by silencing the messenger. Muslims confronted the problem in their traditional way and assassinated Rabbi Kahane on November 5, 1990 in the New York.

I also question your opinion that as a precursor for 2 state solution you favor Egypt and Jordan option. I doubt if Egypt and Jordan will be willing to take on ruling this venomous snake pit. There is a high probability that by doing that Egypt and Jordan will be overtaken by the Muslim brotherhood.


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Daniel Pipes replies:

1. "you stated that the Israelis will make sure that there is no fifth-round": No, I wrote that "the most important question is whether this fourth round of fighting will lead Israelis to make sure there is no fifth round. I think that is likely." Likely, not more.

2. Kahane was silenced, as you put it, because he advocated expulsion of Israel's Arabs, not because he noticed the problem.

3. There are plenty of problems with the Jordan-Egypt idea, of which you point out two. I still think it the best available in the short term.

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