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No Comparison Between American True Conservatism and Hungary's Neo-conservatism

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Submitted by M Tovey (United States), Oct 18, 2018 at 14:10

This article being a... comparison of two diametrically opposed postures of life, a reality check for intercession needs to be convened for the purpose of asking: who says true American conservatism is losing? In fifty years of observations of 'American conservatism' in action, having learned what truly composes the value system from previous true Americans, very few outside of the true American paradigm know why America is in hot water. And to take lessons from Hungary; there is irony, as pithy and at the same time erudite as it may be perceived.

American conservatism from alternative perspectives apparently does not make for an objective comparison, since unless one embraces where true American values come from; determining what is conservative under the shade of American liberty needs a true definition before calling an orange an apple. Saying that American conservatives face a profound structural problem is an extreme understatement since even some supposed conservatives do not share a true conservative's view of the expressions of liberty now being fought politically in the American governmental venue. It is this 'strategic' political perspective that one might try to dissect in making the assertion that Hungary has a better conservative view of politics than America. Hungary has not yet fought that view for the over two hundred years America has; Hungary emerges from a different paradigm, having been part of an empire most of the time America was a republic.

Hungary needs another hundred years of American style conservatism before being made out to be something America does not need to be. The American Constitution needs to be properly observed here before making any such comparisons.

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No Comparison Between American True Conservatism and Hungary's Neo-conservatism [272 words]M ToveyOct 18, 2018 14:10245543
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