grades of illusion

Submitted by Mohammed Waza Khiddif Id'ullah (Australia), Feb 5, 2015 at 04:24

"". We also know that He (or a "Super-wise It???") is just;

MWK:the pronoun 'It' is more appropriate as the source of everything has no gender. Gender came after."

Not really. "It" implies lack of life, and lack of wisdom.

The pronoun 'it'. like the word 'God' are just English language words used to describe or convey our concept of a limitless realiy. One cannot ascribe a gender to the pre-existing cause of gender - so 'It' will have to suffce. Capitalise it if you like. It's not meant to equate it with an inanimate object - it just conveys that it is non-human. If aliens landed - and we discovered they were asexual - how would they be described when you cannpt ascribe a gender to any individual. It's just semantics and the limitation of our language.

The "Big Bang" obviously came from both --

BTW - the universe emerged from a singularity - not something the size of a grapefruit. http://www.space.com/52-the-expanding-universe-from-the-big-bang-to-today.html

"He" is the proper "genderless" pronoun for living things.

How so? Living things, such as cultures/societies are referred to by descriptive nouns for both sexes - eg. 'Mother Russia', 'The Fatherland' etc Is America referred to by its citizens in the masculine or feminine? I've never heard of 'Mother America' but of course 'Uncle Sam' - which refers more to the government I think rather than the whole country.

"What you are describing is an even more detailed picture, wherein even the electrons and nuclei are not particles as we imagine them but, as you say, "holograms" of sorts: mathematical constructs (with a very strange 11-dimensional math, at that) whose only "substance" is..."

Yes - this is correct - the hierarchy of subatomic particles basically derive from potentalities. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave%E2%80%93particle_duality

...in our minds? This is the stuff of The Matrix and beyond, but it isn't science fiction; it's science, our very best science. Yes, we actually LIVE in our minds; and I'm not talking about a mass of protoplasm entrapped in our skulls.

What always stops me in my tracks when I think about it is the fact that our brains are about 1.5kgs of lipid cells. There is no light inside our skulls - it is completely in the dark . And only an input of anlog signals travelling in via the optic nerve. Yet our consciousness recreates a world in real-tme 24/7/365, in full colour. And does that in conjunction with input from other senses - sound, smell, touch - to create that most incredibly overlooked experience - the Moment. As astonishin and novel as 'virtual reality' is - it is left for dead when you appreciate 'real reality'. So just stop in the moment - and realise everything you see - the screen, the text, the keyboard, your hands is out there, yes.... but you're really just recreating it instantaneously inside a black box.

"Neither do we live, as the Hindu gurus say, in a world of illusion: This "holographic" reality is very real, just as real as a clonk on the head; and what's more, there is no reason to believe that it is subjective or "imaginary".

We are humans and that is the world we see. It is not the world that is actually there. Some people are lucky enough to be able to see way more than what your ancestors' genetic legacy has left you with. And some people are unable to experience physical pain or do so in only a very limited way.

So - even in that physical sense - if we see less of what is actually before our eyes - are we not more in illusion? Life is real for us - and of course if something hits you in the face - it is going to affect you. There are varying levels of 'illusion' of course. For example - I went to your town, and happened to bump into your nextdoor neighbour. You had a history with him - he's bummed you out over the years in various ways - letting his trees fall down on your fences and doing nothing about it, letting scrub grow so that it becomes a fire hazard and generally just being an a-hole to everyone. But I don't know anything about that. I , as a foreigner , fascinated by the new world in front of me and unable to read the clues that Americans know to look for in other Americans - just see a happy and friendly enough old guy who chats with what is to me an intriguing American accent - as he kindly gives me a lift along the road. You get the idea - I see a friendly guy, yet you know what he really seems like to you. Who is right and who is wrong? Could be neither, right? But you'd have a more practical way of dealing with him (or perhaps, not knowing his history, do I?)

But the sense of illusion you speak about is in the minds of people who think and feel separate from everything in their own 24/7/365 mind re-created 'reality'. In 'reality' - what is outside us - we are (partially) recreating it in our heads as we go along. So I guess the lesson is - treat that recreated reality that is unfolding in your head the best way you possibly can - it's the only one you have. This message about 'illusion' conveys it well and is as relevant today as it was when it was penned.

'You and I live in the same world, and we both see pretty much the same things...'

yes and no - see above.

. "Yes, there is life after death; and our "minds" are far bigger than our brains".

My take on at least one part of this is that our illusions are very much stripped away. So we should live as consciously and harmoniously as possible so that the Big Surprise really be a pleasant surprise - and not a horror.

"Yeah, Monis had an excuse: he was nuttier than a fruitcake...."

How nutty though? If I was in that cafe and had grabbed a knife from the kitchen (why did not someone do that btw) - and grabbed him and cut his throat from behind and told him he was dying - he'd understand. He knew what he was doing - it required a lot of planning to get hold of a shotgun, ammo, catch a train, pick a taget, separate the hostages, get them to hold an ISIS flag in the wondow - bth to show his allegiance and shield his activities from the eyes of expected police snipers.. He wasn't an alcohlic with DT's talking to a telegraph pole. So the mental illness excuse does not fly in this case - or wth any of the vermin is ISIS - or any islamic perpetrator of crime anywhere. Unless you want 'allah' made me do it ' to be a defence.

It's the rest of us, who are sane, who ought to be able to deal with such people. That's where the break-down has happened.

Sad to say - but to be honest, I'd have used the knife.

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