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Submitted by Thomas (Austria), Sep 8, 2012 at 16:19

  1. It is simply heartbreaking to see small children being shot by snipers. This is barbaric. And the people who live there they ask for our help like in Libya. They are sad and angry that we are not helping. If we start to help them now they would remember. Those people are very proud people and if we show them that we are helping just because of human rights reasons they won't forget this

  2. I really don't believe that all rebels are islamists! Most of the people who are angry with Assad are the ones who have lost relatives and they want Assad away and they will take every help they will get, they don't care if the get the weapons from Saudi Arabia, France, Japan, Canada or USA or Kuweit. But as far as I think they would prefer the USA because they believed the promise George W. Bush made: democracy in the middle east and many people wants it

  3. If we don't help we will lose influence on what will come later and what will happen in Syria and who will govern

  4. It is a very big opportunity for the west to weaken Iran, which is interfering in Iraq and other places

  5. History says simply "yes": In Egypt and Tunisia there was no western intervention: The islamists have won the elections. In Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya there was western intervention!!! In all three countries there are no (or very few) Islamists within the government!!!

  6. In my opinion the most important would be a no-fly-zone. That would stop the killing from the air and help the rebels a lot. Only the USA and France can do this. The arab countries are far to weak for such a help. If there will come no no-fly-zone, the war against Assad will take much longer time and will put much more suffering to the common people, this would help the Islamists! But we don't know who will win. Neither Assad nor the Islamists are good for the west. I can't believe that the Islamists are worse than Assad and the axe with Iran. Assad and Iran are very destructive in Iraq

  7. Why the Iraq wasn't so grateful is very easy to explain: The people there mistrusted the USA about the purpose why the intervention happened and what were their plans. They believed that the USA helped Saddam getting in Power and helping him against the Iran. There are lots of conspiracy theories within Iraq about the USA. It is not "ungratefulness", it is a big mistrust! Surely also since 1991 when George H.W. Bush told them to get rid of Saddam but didn't help them. They surely did not forget this.

  8. The Islamists are trying to establish their world everywhere where they can. We have a war with them everywhere they go fighting and trying to win! Democracy is the answer and I believe that George W. Bush understood this and was acting like this. Iraq was a key state for the battlefield and it will be good if it will be possible if Iraq becomes a democracy where the Islamists stay out of the government or play a small role. In Iraq there had to stay out both the shiites and the sunny islamists.

  9. In my opinion the big mistake of G.W. Bushs intervention in Iraq (if it was really a mistake) was not to think about....if you make intervention in Iraq and you try to build a democracy there you should also have intervention in Iran and Syria. So we are now in this historic situation with both neighbour countries...

  10. I suppose the big challenge within the arab world will not be really sunni islamists versus shiite islamists, this is just a power struggle between some countries, maybe even just between Saudi Arabia and Iran, and even not sharia and democracy, but democracy and tribes and populations. Will it be possible to establish democracy in countries who are based on lots of different tribes with different power and people and different religions who are not elected. In Iraq the situation was even more simple than in Libya. The shiites are more than 50% of population, so they used the election for to get the power fast and here we are. The elections came too early, reconciliation would have been more important. Now there are parties like tribes. In Iraq there should be parties like in Europe, like social democrats, liberals, conservatives, greens, and so on, but not shiite parties and sunni parties and kurds and whatsoever. So this will be the big challenge of democracy: Will the arabs be able to forget that they are different people and tribes and vote for parties with different ideas for society under one constitution with human rights and equal rights for all people, religions and tribes? Maybe some day....

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Title Commenter Date Thread
We cannot do everything everywhere, agree about Syrian intervention [171 words]Richard StoeckerAug 28, 2013 15:40209272
Assad is the lesser of the two evils ! [82 words]Phil GreendFeb 9, 2013 10:35203357
I think we should act, and we should act tomorrow [806 words]ThomasSep 8, 2012 16:19198462
2Your naivete blind you. [467 words]IsmaelSep 10, 2012 01:39198462
1Insightful Article by Robert Frisk [87 words]AhmedSep 7, 2012 14:03198439
1thank-you [104 words]john w mcginleyAug 30, 2012 12:56198256
1Turkey already uccupies Antioch-Antakya which is a part of Syria [47 words]zinovyAug 29, 2012 19:17198250
S against S [30 words]steven LAug 26, 2012 00:43198181
Is Assad Losing? [168 words]kenny komodoAug 25, 2012 08:47198164
1The War Propaganda - Remember the Tet Offensive [926 words]IsmaelAug 28, 2012 13:47198164
1an instinct of guilt [135 words]mythAug 23, 2012 17:27198145
1About time [174 words]David VAug 23, 2012 14:34198142
1And what if assisting anybody anywhere except oneself everywhere is no concern and no objective at all ? [307 words]IanusAug 24, 2012 07:24198142
2but the west does not learn.... [71 words]laisa1942Aug 22, 2012 19:30198127
1One fewer potential rival to worry about [298 words]IanusAug 23, 2012 03:50198127
Agree [8 words]WestieAug 21, 2012 17:51198106
1Question.. [32 words]arild nordbyAug 21, 2012 17:25198105
2The State Department answers your question differently. [571 words]IanusAug 22, 2012 08:44198105
1A morally and military broken world. [42 words]NuritGAug 21, 2012 16:47198104
Well said [21 words]rabbi allen podetAug 21, 2012 16:20198103
2... history ... [189 words]Amjad of ArabiaAug 21, 2012 16:19198102
History [17 words]Nenette GrunbergAug 21, 2012 23:18198102
3Wrong history as usual [930 words]IanusAug 22, 2012 07:37198102
3History don't matter if you control the "Ministry of Truth" [814 words]IsmaelAug 24, 2012 16:37198102
1The American one-party oligarchy and its outlet "Council on Foreign Relations" in praise of "Front for the Protection of the Levantine People" aka al-Qaeda [1504 words]IanusAug 29, 2012 18:05198102
Ianus, you are a very impressive contributor here [25 words]KilljoyAug 30, 2012 23:53198102
1Nothing to brag about , I am sure . [115 words]IanusSep 1, 2012 14:40198102
5Islam - a civilizational WMD [1084 words]IanusSep 1, 2012 16:36198102
Ianus, you have 9 comments judged as "outstanding" by Dr. Pipes [62 words]KilljoySep 2, 2012 11:36198102
6"Devil's Game: How the United States Helped Unleash Fundamentalist Islam" by Robert Dreyfuss [1756 words]IanusSep 3, 2012 08:49198102
I never thought '---- [19 words]DemelzaSep 4, 2012 18:08198102
1Something of myself [134 words]IanusSep 5, 2012 14:16198102
Youtube was not exactly the type of forum I had in mind Ianus...... [15 words]KilljoySep 6, 2012 11:38198102
1sunni revenge [129 words]rodney allsworthAug 21, 2012 15:15198098
All Countries need to stay out of Syria [88 words]RedvixenAug 21, 2012 14:23198097
The "Exception" [36 words]B. MiglerAug 21, 2012 13:12198095
1No dog in the fight [189 words]JeffAug 21, 2012 13:08198094
Don't look now... [29 words]PaulAug 21, 2012 12:12198092
Correct except for the chemical arsenal [87 words]Abu NudnikAug 21, 2012 11:01198091
1Let Them Keep Killing Each Other [76 words]STUART KAUFMANAug 21, 2012 09:09198088
1How about the Christian minority in Syria? [43 words]IanusAug 22, 2012 08:53198088
1Let Them Keep Killing Each Other [41 words]STUART KAUFMANAug 22, 2012 18:03198088
4The US prepares the same fate for Syrian Christians as for Turkish or Iraqi Christians-genocide or expulsion through its jihadist cronies [577 words]IanusAug 23, 2012 03:03198088
5The Copts of Egypt [649 words]dhimmi no moreAug 25, 2012 08:48198088
How can you be so sure that Assad will lose? [95 words]Henk TwerdaAug 21, 2012 05:49198082
2Helping Syria [60 words]Dennis GarwitzAug 21, 2012 02:52198079

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