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Submitted by I.Jahir Hussain (Kuwait), Jan 12, 2010 at 13:55

IN RESPONSE TO BELOW "FOLLOWING REQUIREMENTS" PLEASE NOTE MY COMMENTS;

1. Separation of religion and life: A TEACHER GUIDES A STUDENT ALL BASICS OF KNOWLEDGE IN EARLY YEARS, LATER STUDENT SPECIALIZES IN HIS/HER SUBJECT OF INTEREST. PARENTS GUIDE THEIR CHILD ALL BASICS OF LIFE FOR HIM/HER TO EXCEL IN JOURNEY OF LIFE. RELATIONS&FRIENDS GUIDE ONE TO ALL BASICS OF UNDERSTANDING & MORALITY. SOCIETY GUIDES ONE TO SURVIVAL & CONTRIBUTION. IF THE BASICS OF ALL ABOVE GUIDANCE IS FROM DIFFERENT SOURCES, THERE WILL BE CONFLICT IN FUNDAS. IF IT IS FROM ONE SOURCE AND RIGHT SOURCE IT WILL BE FLAWLESS. WHO ELSE CAN BE THAT ONE SOURCE OTHER THAN CREATOR? TOTAL UNDERSTANDING OF OWNER'S MANUAL ABOUT HIS CREATION IS MUST .

2. Separation of church and state: ABOVE EXPLAINS THIS ALSO. NOT LOGICAL TO SEPARATE (CONFUSE) CREATOR'S GUIDANCE WHICH IS SEAMLESS.

3. There is no infidel: OFCOURSE IT IS WRONG TO DENIGRATE SOMEONE AS INFIDEL. IT IS HARSH WAY OF DEALING WITH DIFFERENT CATEGORY FROM MUSLIMS. THIS IS COMMON ONLY WHEN THERE IS CONFLICT BETWEEN GROUPS.

4. Eradicate unequal rules of engagement: FOR THIS TO BE EXPLAINED, ONE SHOULD UNDERSTAND THE BACKGROUND OF RELIGIONS. ISLAM SAYS ITS PURPOSE IS TO CORRECT THE MISUNDERSTANDINGS CREATED ON ORIGINAL(ONLY) RELIGION OF MANKIND PROPOGATED BY ALL PROPHETS. THERE CAN BE NO DOUBT THAT OUR ONLY CREATOR WOULD HAVE ADVISED US ONE RELIGION ONLY. HOW THERE ARE SO MANY FUNDAMENTALLY CONFLICTING RELIGIONS? IN THAT SO MANY DIVISIONS AND SO MANY PHILOSOPHIES WHICH HARM HUMAN RACE IN MANY MANY MANY WAYS? WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PRESERVING THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE SO THAT ONE DAY IT WOULD BE UNDERSTOOD BY ALL CREATURES OR ATLEAST MOST OF THEM? BUT WHOEVER IS TAKING THIS RESPONSIBILITY THEY SHOULD BE READY FOR THE GREATEST SACRIFICE AND MUST BE VERY CAREFUL BECOZ THIS IS THE (MOST)BIGGEST RESPONSIBILITY IN THIS WORLD. THEY SHOULD TRUELY JUSTIFY THIS UNEQUAL NEED IN THIS WORLD. ARE MUSLIMS SUCCESFUL IN THIS RESPONSIBILITY, NON-MUSLIMS SAY "no". WAKE UP &DO YOUR BEST.

5. Eradicate rules against apostasy: OFCOURSE, "THERE IS NO COMPULSION IN ISLAM". TO EXPLAIN THIS IT IS REQUESTED TO MOST PEOPLE WHO MISUNDESTAND&MIS-QUOTE QURAN FOR BLAMING ISLAM TO GO INTO QURAN FOR A STRIGHT STATEMENT ON THIS. ABOUT THE OTHERWAY, AFTER EXPLAINING THE RESPONSIBILITY ABOVE, IT IA PART OF THAT FOR A MUSLIM ABOUT HIS/HER CLOSE SUBJECTS. IF SOMEONE FORCIBILY GOES OUT IT IS HIS/HER DECISION. FREEDOM GIVEN BY OUR CREATOR IS NOT THE WAY WE UNDERSTOOD IT. OUR CREATOR LOVES THOSE WHO USE THEIR FREEDOM RESPONSIBILY.

6. Eradicate the unequal rules in marriage: UNEQUAL NEED IN THIS WORLD IS EXPLAINED ABOVE IN DETAIL. MARRIAGE IS CRITICAL PART OF LIFE SO ONE SHOULD BE MORE RESPONSIBLE. OFCOURSE WHEN IT COMES TO MARRYING NON-MUSLIMS, A MUSLIM SHOULD KNOW OF HIS/HER RESPONSIBILITY TOWARDS HIS CREATOR NOT FOR HIS/HER PROUDNESS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

7. Ummah is good but ummah is bad as well: INNOCENT BOMBING IS NOT AT ALL JUSTIFIED BY ISLAM. KILLING ONE INNOCENT IS EQUAL TO KILLING THE WHOLE WORLD. AGAIN IT IS REQUESTED OF CRITIQUES OF ISLAM TO FIND THIS EXACT STATEMENT FROM QURAN. OFCOURSE MUSLIMS DO EXCERCISE THIS EXTREME DEFENCE ACTION FOR NORMAL TIMES BY MISTAKE. MISTAKES ARE PREVALENT IN ALL GROUPS. BUT MUSLIMS ARE TARGETTED AS THE ONLY GROUP WHICH COMMITS THIS MISTAKE ANS MORE PAINFULLY ALL ARE TARGETTED FOR FEW'S ACTION. WHY? IS IT BECOZ IT IS PART OF THEIR HEAVY BURDENING RESPONSIBILITY. GOD KNOWS. BUT HE WILL TAKE CARE ALSO IF WE, MUSLIMS STRIVE OUR BEST TO HOLD ON TO OUR CREATORS EXPECTATIONS. ONE OF OUR CREATOR'S EXPECTATIONS IS THAT HIS CREATION SHOULD DO GOOD AND BE JUST TO OTHER CREATION BY ALL MEANS. ARE MUSLIMS DOING THIS? LACKING? WAKE UP & MEET THE REQUIREMENTS. BECOZ YOU SHOULD RESPONSIBLE.

It is natural for a person to feel sympathy toward another who shares his believes. In this sense the insistence on Islamic-ummah is good. But do not carry it too far. Attack on Muslim 10000 miles away is not an attack on every Muslim 10000 miles apart. Palestinian's war against Israel may or may not be justified, but it should not mandate a Muslim in Bangladesh to crack a bomb. Writing an editorial is ok. Making donations to Palestinian kids is noble. But burning a bus 10000 miles away is not ok. If done correctly no Muslim will support another just because they share a common religion/culture. Secular morality should take precedence.

If we can go this far, very little distance will be left to go.

Submitting....

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