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Submitted by Sohail (United Kingdom), Sep 11, 2006 at 09:17

Pat you said the following:

Do you have any examples of biblical verses that are cruel and barbaric?

Yeah Pat I have plenty of biblical verses that are cruel and teach violence. Here's Jesus got to say about the Old Testament laws:

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. (Matthew 5:17)

Jesus according to the verse above strongly approves of the OT laws and the prophets, so this is what Jesus approves of Pat:

(Deuteronomy 7:2)

God tells the Israelites to kill, without mercy, all the inhabitants of the land that they conquer.

Well Israel is certainly doing that to Lebanon today:

and when the LORD your God delivers them over to you, you shall conquer them and utterly destroy them. You shall make no covenant with them nor show mercy to them. (Deu 7:2)

(Deuteronomy 13: 12-17)

If you hear of a city where another god is worshiped, then destroy everyone in the city and burn it down. (Watch out Salt Lake City!):

12If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the LORD thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying, 13Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known; 14Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you; 15Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. 16And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again. 17And there shall cleave nought of the cursed thing to thine hand: that the LORD may turn from the fierceness of his anger, and shew thee mercy, and have compassion upon thee, and multiply thee, as he hath sworn unto thy fathers;

Pat here is what the New Testament got to say:

For Moses truly said to the fathers, ‘The LORD your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your brethren. Him you shall hear in all things, whatever He says to you. (Acts 3:22)

And it shall be that every soul who will not hear that Prophet shall be utterly destroyed from among the people. (Acts 3:23)

Peter is saying in the above verses that Jesus fulfilled the prophecy about the Prophet like Moses in Deut.18:18-19. He also say that whoever refuses to follow him (all non-Christians) must be killed. So Peter is telling Christians kill those who don't follow Jesus.

For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother'; and, ‘He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.

Jesus in the above verse criticizes the Jews for not killing disobedient children as required by the Old Testaments laws.

Pat you said the following:

Most of the Old Testament is the history of the Jewish people.

Ok the Old Testament does talk about history of the Jews, but it also gives them laws on how to deal with non-believers and everyday, Jesus in the New Testament says that he came to fulfill the Old Testaments laws and not to give new ones.

The Holy Quran Jihads verses are tellings us about how Muhammad (pbuh) dealt with the Pagans of Arabia, they are not giving us a law but they are talking history.

Do you understand now Pat?

Sohail


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