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I surmise that your mistaken because Donald Trump is unlike Richard Pipes or Barack Obama

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Submitted by Robert (United States), Sep 9, 2019 at 01:35

This is another rare instance in which I disagree with Daniel Pipes.

You advocate for an Israeli Victory over the Palestinians. But you have not advocated, as far as I know, and Strategy or Tactics by which such Israeli Victory is to be achieved. On the other hand, President Trump has used his executive powers to achieve goals favorible to Israel of you and your readers are familiar and I need not rehash. I surmise that you do not give Republican President Trump due credit primarily because in his eloquence and discourse he is so different from your late father Richard Pipes or prior President Barack Obama. I urge to consider what President Trump has DONE for Israel and give no weight to his twitter remarks or any statements which he has made which the "fake media" informs you of. Perhaps if you study his "The Apprentice" TV series you might get a more favorable assessment of President Trump's character or personality.

Regarding banning unsavory characters from who aren't Israeli citizens or legal residents. perhaps direction your attention to our own American Constitutional practice might influence you to change your mind. I direct your attention to the List compiled by our Secretary of State which names Persons (including organizations) as TERRORISTS. ISIS is a good example. Not only is a person from such an organization barred from entering the USA, but no American is permitted to give any material support - for example, no American can raise fu8nds for the legal defense of such an organization or a person who wishes to come here to advocate for that cause. Even the Freedom of Speech is here constitutionally restricted - because foreigners not on USA soil are not entitled to come here just to speak.

There is, however, another issue here. BDS is not an organization merely expounding a view, an idea. It is engaged in (1) Boycotts, (2) Divestment, and (3) Sanctions of Israeli Goods and Services. None of the entities Listed by the Secretary of State as Terrorist in nature require Boycotts or Divestment because they are so severely Sanctions that they have no known presence in the USA.

I don't think you would, Daniel Pipes, wish to permit and spokesman of any organization Listed as Terrorist by our State Department as Terrorist to come to the USA to advocate even for its de-Listing. There is the case of the Kurds. Perhaps Turkey would be upset by a delisting of that Terrorist organization.

In conclusion, I surmise that the only reason you would really like these 2 Antisemitic left-of-center Democrats to be allowed to visit Israel is because you believe that Bibi succumbed to Trump's alleged request. Furthermore, your advocacy for Israeli Victory requires this kind of pro-active policy of Israel: ban any foreigner from visiting Israel just like the USA prohibits anyone associated with a Terrorist entity or Terrorist person from coming to the USA. I really suspect that you are biased against the non-intellectual image of President Trump and that blinds you from seeing that banning these 2 "progressive" Democrats (of the Gang of Four) contributes to an Israeli Victory, which you yourself advocate. There is also Trump's correct view, which you probably also find distasteful but only because he expressed it - that American Jews are disloyal to THEMSELVES (the Jews of Israel). That Philosemitic observation, incidentally, is easy to confuse with the Antisemitic charge that American Jews are disloyal to the USA when they support Israel. And President Trump is extremely Philosemitic - something to which you yourself, as an American Jew may have a problem with. That makes me wonder about a similarity to Noam Chomsky who the least Philosemitic Jew and perhaps an unconsciously Self-Hating Jew. I certainly don't to imply that you have any significant similarity to him. But your position on Trump, the 2 (Antisemitic) Congresswomen, baring them from entering Israel, and favoring an Israeli Victory on your part, has not persuaded me except to try to analyze, psychologically, why you would take the stand you did in this attack on the decision of the state of Israel to bar these 2 despicable American legislators from visiting Israel. And by the way, there is also the drift of Israel towards Saudi Arabia (& the Gulf Arab States), India, China, etc. Why is it so important or in Israel's intersects to be nice to just 2 federal left-wing female legislators of Uncle Sam?


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Title Commenter Date Thread
2Pipes: Tlaib offered the conditions, *not* Israel [245 words]Frumious FalafelSep 8, 2019 10:58254099
1How Trump Put Netanyahu in an Untenable Position [70 words]amos zotAug 25, 2019 05:38253366
2Damned if you do, damned if you don't [478 words]Concerned humanistAug 22, 2019 19:45253228
2A rare agreement with Trump [141 words]Ron ThompsonAug 19, 2019 13:06253034
4Violence [112 words]EdwardAug 18, 2019 14:02252987
3You started from a false premise [66 words]
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SDNAug 18, 2019 12:55252981
2BB was Right [104 words]Bill R.Aug 18, 2019 12:36252979
3Islamists in garb of lawmakers [72 words]AnilAug 18, 2019 12:21252978
Islamists in garb of lawmakers and more [107 words]PrashantAug 25, 2019 21:49252978
2It's about a war [51 words]Nan AbramsAug 18, 2019 00:40252955
1Israel's integrity not PC negotiable [102 words]
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Cal MillerAug 17, 2019 19:49252946
2Israel would not have been able to "control the narrative" [233 words]Anon.Aug 17, 2019 18:19252939
Being Out Played [10 words]Barry BlackAug 18, 2019 15:45252939
2I Disagree on All 5 Points! [193 words]David RyanAug 17, 2019 17:23252936
2those who fail to learn from history... [554 words]
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Charles MartelAug 17, 2019 16:21252933
2How Trump Put Netanyahu in an Untenable Position [62 words]Zionist MomAug 17, 2019 13:31252926
1Both Netanyahu and Pres. Trump are right [101 words]Alex BaldorAug 17, 2019 13:16252923
1Prime Minister Netanyahu pressured by President Trump [213 words]
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Darlene CasellaAug 17, 2019 12:03252919
1Trump is right from his point of view [33 words]
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BernardZAug 17, 2019 11:42252918
Oh Brother! [43 words]Barry BlackAug 17, 2019 10:29252917
2Heads: Israel's enemies win. Tails: Israel loses [248 words]DaveAug 17, 2019 10:15252916
How Trump Put Netanyahu in an Untenable Position. Tlaib was exposed. [689 words]Anne-USAAug 17, 2019 09:23252914
2Rookies in Congress, German or English supremacy? [124 words]The Eye BallAug 17, 2019 08:54252911
1Respectfully disagree [163 words]Abu AliAug 17, 2019 08:03252908
6I stand with BB [81 words]Hon Sirajin Rollings-KamaraAug 17, 2019 03:12252901
10I beg to differ [388 words]Dave GirvitzAug 16, 2019 23:10252894
Not a matter of "a free speech exception for hate speech" [133 words]Anon.Aug 17, 2019 18:28252894
not with you on this one [92 words]bruce l bialoskyAug 18, 2019 08:25252894
7Israel was right. [65 words]Kenneth MathewsAug 16, 2019 22:45252893
Disappointed reading today's article [100 words]Palti SelaAug 17, 2019 09:15252893
1I surmise that your mistaken because Donald Trump is unlike Richard Pipes or Barack Obama [741 words]RobertSep 9, 2019 01:35252893

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