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Submitted by Charles Martel (United States), Aug 17, 2019 at 16:21

In the relatively short span of time that the United States has existed our nation has labored to distinguish itself by exemplifying the highest and best aspirations of humanity. Particularly during the 20th and 21st Century we sacrificed blood and treasure fighting for the freedom of others, as in Europe and Asia during World War 2, while asking little or nothing in return. One thing we understood then was that after defeating an evil foe it is crucial to dismantle their philosophical underpinnings. This is why President Truman outlawed Naziism in Germany and Shinto Buddhism in Japan as a condition of each nation's surrender.

In this modern era, the existential threats we face come in various guises but one in particular must fundamentally be understood to arise from the core teachings of Islam. In other words, the problem with Islam isn't its fundamentalist sects, but rather the fundamentals undergirding Islam itself. And the problem grows by the day. Europe has more or less been transformed into a sort of quasi Eurabia as a result of Islamic Hijra. Recently, several Eastern European countries appear to have woken to the threat, but for France, the UK, Belgium and even Sweden it may be too late.

In the US, we've largely been spared the evils of this modern day Hijra, however communities including Dearborn MI, Minneapolis, MN and several others have been partially converted into dar al Islam. This has also permitted Islamists like Tlaib and Omar to wield political power. The outrageous words and deeds of these two would be the stuff of bad fiction if they weren't true. It is literally as though Joseph Goebbels had been reanimated and was now operating in Congress.

Now we come to the present conundrum - whether or not we should allow these agents of Islam to export their message of Jew hatred in Israel. And here's why Donald Trump was quite right to ask Prime Minster Netanyahu to refuse them permission to enter. Just as post WW2 saw the extirpation of Nazism from Europe, so too our present day leaders must reign in Islam from subsuming the free world, one step at a time.

I do understand the counterargument, which says that the antidote to bad ideas is good ideas. This would be a beautiful thing if it was true. And yet, unfortunately human nature doesn't always seem to work that way. If I'm mistaken here, then perhaps someone can explain why conversion to Islam rose markedly after September 11th. It would seem that to the reasoned mind, the events of that day constituted an aberration of such ugliness and horror that the ideology behind it should have been cursed and banished from existence.

But that's not what's happened.

It appears that getting kicked in the teeth was just the impetus many weak minded people found to be the animating spark that drove them to abandon the fruits of the enlightenment for something darker and far more brutish. It is for this reason that, while I understand the thoughtfully articulated arguments such as that expressed by Professor Pipes, I believe that our overriding imperative must be to recognize and strenuously oppose the toxic momentum of political Islam wherever and whenever it rears its ugly head - in this case the two ugly heads, Tlaib and Omar.

Charles Martel

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Daniel Pipes replies:

Truman did not outlaw Shintoism. MacArthur dis-established it as the state religion.

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2Pipes: Tlaib offered the conditions, *not* Israel [245 words]Frumious FalafelSep 8, 2019 10:58254099
1How Trump Put Netanyahu in an Untenable Position [70 words]amos zotAug 25, 2019 05:38253366
2Damned if you do, damned if you don't [478 words]Concerned humanistAug 22, 2019 19:45253228
2A rare agreement with Trump [141 words]Ron ThompsonAug 19, 2019 13:06253034
4Violence [112 words]EdwardAug 18, 2019 14:02252987
3You started from a false premise [66 words]
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SDNAug 18, 2019 12:55252981
2BB was Right [104 words]Bill R.Aug 18, 2019 12:36252979
3Islamists in garb of lawmakers [72 words]AnilAug 18, 2019 12:21252978
Islamists in garb of lawmakers and more [107 words]PrashantAug 25, 2019 21:49252978
2It's about a war [51 words]Nan AbramsAug 18, 2019 00:40252955
1Israel's integrity not PC negotiable [102 words]
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Cal MillerAug 17, 2019 19:49252946
2Israel would not have been able to "control the narrative" [233 words]Anon.Aug 17, 2019 18:19252939
Being Out Played [10 words]Barry BlackAug 18, 2019 15:45252939
2I Disagree on All 5 Points! [193 words]David RyanAug 17, 2019 17:23252936
2those who fail to learn from history... [554 words]
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Charles MartelAug 17, 2019 16:21252933
2How Trump Put Netanyahu in an Untenable Position [62 words]Zionist MomAug 17, 2019 13:31252926
1Both Netanyahu and Pres. Trump are right [101 words]Alex BaldorAug 17, 2019 13:16252923
1Prime Minister Netanyahu pressured by President Trump [213 words]
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Darlene CasellaAug 17, 2019 12:03252919
1Trump is right from his point of view [33 words]
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BernardZAug 17, 2019 11:42252918
Oh Brother! [43 words]Barry BlackAug 17, 2019 10:29252917
2Heads: Israel's enemies win. Tails: Israel loses [248 words]DaveAug 17, 2019 10:15252916
How Trump Put Netanyahu in an Untenable Position. Tlaib was exposed. [689 words]Anne-USAAug 17, 2019 09:23252914
2Rookies in Congress, German or English supremacy? [124 words]The Eye BallAug 17, 2019 08:54252911
1Respectfully disagree [163 words]Abu AliAug 17, 2019 08:03252908
6I stand with BB [81 words]Hon Sirajin Rollings-KamaraAug 17, 2019 03:12252901
10I beg to differ [388 words]Dave GirvitzAug 16, 2019 23:10252894
Not a matter of "a free speech exception for hate speech" [133 words]Anon.Aug 17, 2019 18:28252894
not with you on this one [92 words]bruce l bialoskyAug 18, 2019 08:25252894
7Israel was right. [65 words]Kenneth MathewsAug 16, 2019 22:45252893
Disappointed reading today's article [100 words]Palti SelaAug 17, 2019 09:15252893
1I surmise that your mistaken because Donald Trump is unlike Richard Pipes or Barack Obama [741 words]RobertSep 9, 2019 01:35252893

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