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Our dear ECAW and evidence that Muslim translations by Pakistanis and Indian Muslims are full of lies!

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Submitted by dhimmi no more, May 4, 2019 at 08:04

Our dear ECAW whose Hindu ancestors were brutalized by Islam and who has to read a bogus translation of the Qur'an because he cannot read the Arabic text

Here is an example from an old post of mine that translations of the Qur'an by Muslims from India and Pakistan are full of lies and are not trustworthy

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Jul 25, 2017 at 07:09

Dr Pipes

Muslim apologists claim that Q25:52 is about the so called "inner struggle" aka al-jihad al-akbar

Well here is Q25:52

فلا تطع الكافرين وجاهدهم به جهادا كبيرا

And here is the verse from Sahih International with a shameful translation

https://quran.com/25/52

And here is the shameful translation

"So do not obey the disbelievers and strive against them with the Qur'an a great striving"

Here is the correct translation

1. فلا تطع means So do not obey

2. الكافرين means the unbelievers

3. وجاهدهم means and declare Jihad

4. به means with it (Notice that the author of the Qur'an does not tell us what is really the "it" but this did not stop the translators at Sahih International from adding the word Qur'an which is not in the text)

5. جهادا كبيرا means (the declared jihad is) a big jihad

If we turn to Ibn Manzur's Lisan al-Arab the word jihad here should be read as holy war

Or: So do not obey the unbelievers and declare jihad (against them) with it (and it is) a big jihad

Notice that:

1. The word Qur'an is not in the Quranic text

2. The so called al-jihad al-akbar is not in the text

3. The author of the Qur'an does not define the "it" in the text

4. The word jihad here can only mean holy war

The most important word must be به or with it

If we turn to al-Qurtubi's tafsir we find the following:

al-Qurtubi does not know and he defines the above "it" as

1. القران The Qur'an

2. Or الاسلام or Islam

3. Or السيف or THE SWORD because what the word jihad means is holy war

Then he wrote that "this sura is Meccan and it was written before the order to fight"

It is very clear that the word jihad in the verse can only mean to fight the unbelievers and more evidence that jihad can only mean holy war

It is shocking that our MSM the likes of the WaPo and NYT are believing this nonsense and more so when we hear this nonsense from members of academia


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1Islam ,a totalitarian religion [46 words]AktAug 10, 2019 04:06252572
Guilty by Connotation [332 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
John MaszkaApr 25, 2019 23:04249517
Guilty by Connotation [151 words]John MaszkaApr 26, 2019 21:33249517
3Teaching our dear John Maszka Arabic and Arabic transliteration! [61 words]dhimmi no moreApr 27, 2019 07:40249517
6Boys and girls we have a scholar here! Mr Maszka himself! And Islamophobia is a word created by fascists and used by cowards to manipulate morons! [231 words]dhimmi no moreApr 27, 2019 08:04249517
2Our dear Mr Maszka earned his صلى الله عليه وسلم! [77 words]dhimmi no moreApr 27, 2019 08:26249517
3Teaching our dear Mr Maszka: There are "moderate" Muslims but there is no moderate Islam! [252 words]dhimmi no moreApr 27, 2019 09:50249517
3Our dear Mr Maszka صلى الله عليه وسلم and more gems [149 words]dhimmi no moreApr 27, 2019 14:03249517
2Islamophobia is indeed a false concept. [94 words]PrashantApr 27, 2019 18:26249517
Everywhere an Islamophobe [100 words]JeffApr 27, 2019 21:27249517
Being dragged into hell [96 words]ECAWApr 28, 2019 03:58249517
Allah O Akbar: A Journey Through Militant Islam [25 words]John MaszkaApr 28, 2019 04:52249517
1Your sarcasm is not necessary [154 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
John MaszkaApr 28, 2019 05:30249517
3I worry NOT about moderate/fundamentalist etc Muslims [289 words]PrashantApr 28, 2019 11:24249517
2Our dear Mr Maszka and argument from "but I read it some where then it must be true"! [60 words]dhimmi no moreApr 29, 2019 14:56249517
ECAW: You have to read the following verses in Arabic and then read Tafsir al-Tabari [41 words]dhimmi no moreApr 29, 2019 15:02249517
1Our dear ECAW and "carcans"? Seriously? [65 words]dhimmi no moreApr 30, 2019 07:13249517
dhimmi no more [17 words]ECAWApr 30, 2019 15:03249517
2Re: Guilt by Connotation [200 words]AnonApr 30, 2019 20:24249517
Our dear ECAW صلى الله عليه وسلم needs to stick Urdu [167 words]dhimmi no moreMay 1, 2019 15:39249517
2Our dear ECAW needs to stick to Urdu! [148 words]dhimmi no moreMay 2, 2019 06:24249517
1Our dear ECAW and evidence that Muslim translations by Pakistanis and Indian Muslims are full of lies! [423 words]dhimmi no moreMay 4, 2019 08:04249517
Our dear ECAW is not aware of the disasters in the book of Islam and this time Ibn Kathir telling us that Muslims should tie non Muslims with chains and bring them to Islam! [109 words]dhimmi no moreMay 5, 2019 10:25249517
Our dear ECAW صلى الله عليه وسلم and one more question [59 words]dhimmi no moreMay 8, 2019 07:12249517
1Our dear Mr Maszka and the bogus word "Islamophobia" and Henri Lammens! [231 words]dhimmi no moreMay 12, 2019 09:42249517
2Maszka, a gaslighting narcisist [218 words]Charles MartelMay 12, 2019 19:13249517
2Our dear Mr Maszka صلى الله عليه وسلم and sarcasm? What sarcasm? [474 words]dhimmi no moreMay 13, 2019 06:58249517
1Our dear Mr Maszka صلى الله عليه وسلم and the victims of Islamic terrorism and in this case the Yazidis [65 words]dhimmi no moreMay 13, 2019 07:38249517
pleading of Satan's lawyer [66 words]Adel SaoumaApr 25, 2019 00:11249489
Dr. Pipes, you give the ostensible scholar, Maszka, too much credit... [210 words]Bryan TaplitsApr 24, 2019 11:15249474
"Moderate Muslims"! [108 words]dhimmi no moreApr 24, 2019 08:24249473
6Charlatans [80 words]AnonApr 22, 2019 19:31249438
Re Charlatans [18 words]John in MichiganApr 23, 2019 23:58249438
1All too Common [31 words]Liatris SpicataApr 22, 2019 19:19249437
4Daniel Pipes Definitely Believes in Moderate Muslims [437 words]David RyanApr 22, 2019 18:10249436
2A long and honorable career. [64 words]Ethan PerksApr 22, 2019 14:17249432
1What resources does Afghanistan have? [124 words]DaveApr 22, 2019 11:11249430
2Afghanistan's resources [319 words]PrashantApr 22, 2019 21:45249430
Afghanistan do have a lot of resources [341 words]Debanjan BanerjeeMay 15, 2019 03:40249430
2Our dear Deb صلى الله عليه وسلم is back! [299 words]dhimmi no moreMay 15, 2019 14:58249430
Our dear Deb صلى الله عليه وسلم and millions of Hindus were the victims of the Muslim invaders of India and he does not care! I wonder why [38 words]dhimmi no moreMay 17, 2019 07:39249430
Our fool's errand in Afghanistan [188 words]JeffMay 17, 2019 11:08249430
2Our dear Deb صلى الله عليه وسلم and Infant Mortality Rates in Afghanistan! [178 words]dhimmi no moreMay 17, 2019 12:50249430
Our dear Deb صلى الله عليه وسلم and more questions! [372 words]dhimmi no moreMay 18, 2019 07:45249430
Our dear Deb صلى الله عليه وسلم and Per Capita Income in Kuffar lands v Afghanistan and Pakistan [60 words]dhimmi no moreMay 19, 2019 06:37249430
Our dear Deb صلى الله عليه وسلم and this time one more question and it is not about the Gospel of Barnabas I promise! [64 words]dhimmi no moreMay 22, 2019 08:22249430
1Prosecutable or not, libel is libel [50 words]JeffApr 22, 2019 11:06249429
Moderate Muslims [54 words]ECAWApr 23, 2019 06:59249429

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