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Submitted by John Maszka (United Arab Emirates), Apr 25, 2019 at 23:04

Mr. Pipes' distinction between Muslims and "fundamentalists" is inaccurate at best and very misleading for those who don't actually understand the difference. For example, his 1995 article "There Are No Moderates: Dealing with Fundamentalist Islam" (and even his comments above) insist that Muslims and fundamentalist Muslims are mutually exclusive-that it's impossible to be both at the same time. However, this caricature of Islam reeks of Orientalism and willful ignorance. Islam is no different than any other religion. It has adherents that fall along a wide continuum from the most nominal to the very devout-none of which necessarily involve violence. Fundamentalists (of any religious background) lean toward a strict, and sometimes literal, interpretation of the scriptures they revere.Most fundamentalists are devout, not fanatical. There's a difference. Fundamentalism in no way equates to violent extremism. The fact that a minute percentage of adherents to any religious faith resort to violence is unfortunate, but this fact in no way implicates the vast majority who do not.

Many born-again Christians accurately fit the definition of fundamentalism as well. However (and unfortunately), the denotation of the word is very different from its sensational and much-abused connotation, which conjures up images of suicide bombers screaming, "Allah O Akbar," and slaughtering innocent women and children. It is just as ridiculous to label all fundamentalists Muslims as violent extremists as it is to assume that all fundamentalists Christians are.

As for Mr. Pipes' objection to the assertion that he is an Islamophobe, I'll let the facts speak for themselves. The Urban Dictionary defines an Islamophobe as someone who believes that "Islam promotes violence, barbarism, terrorism, persecution, women oppression..." Mr. Pipes' insistence that all fundamentalist Muslims are violent basically alleges that in order to be a devout Muslim, one has to be violent. His attempts to defend his position with his many references to "moderate Muslims" only further reveals his true ideology and is akin to the racists who always tell you that they have many "Negro" friends. I doubt it.


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Daniel Pipes replies:

Emily Shalev (@emshalev) replied at the Gatestone Institute, where this article originally appeared, to this identical comment. I can't do better than to quote her here:

@Johnmaszka: you have not responded to the actual content of Dr. Pipes article - nor specifically to any of the allegations made on the level of your academic integrity.

In the 1995 article by Dr. Pipes, which you reference, there appears the opening sentence of the 5th paragraph: "Though anchored in religious creed, fundamentalist Islam is a radical utopian movement closer in spirit to other such movements...". Thus Pipes clearly acknowledges that Islam & Fundamentalist Islam are not mutually exclusive. If you had bothered to read the article (which was in many ways prescient) you would have realized that Pipes is NOT claiming that there is no moderate Islam, but rather, that among the fundamentalists moderation is absent or scarce.

Your sloppy, self-congratulatory response, clearly re-enforces the validity of the allegations made in the body of Dr. Pipes' article.

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Title Commenter Date Thread
Guilty by Connotation [332 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
John MaszkaApr 25, 2019 23:04249517
Guilty by Connotation [151 words]John MaszkaApr 26, 2019 21:33249517
3Teaching our dear John Maszka Arabic and Arabic transliteration! [61 words]dhimmi no moreApr 27, 2019 07:40249517
5Boys and girls we have a scholar here! Mr Maszka himself! And Islamophobia is a word created by fascists and used by cowards to manipulate morons! [231 words]dhimmi no moreApr 27, 2019 08:04249517
2Our dear Mr Maszka earned his صلى الله عليه وسلم! [77 words]dhimmi no moreApr 27, 2019 08:26249517
2Teaching our dear Mr Maszka: There are "moderate" Muslims but there is no moderate Islam! [252 words]dhimmi no moreApr 27, 2019 09:50249517
2Our dear Mr Maszka صلى الله عليه وسلم and more gems [149 words]dhimmi no moreApr 27, 2019 14:03249517
1Islamophobia is indeed a false concept. [94 words]PrashantApr 27, 2019 18:26249517
Everywhere an Islamophobe [100 words]JeffApr 27, 2019 21:27249517
Being dragged into hell [96 words]ECAWApr 28, 2019 03:58249517
Allah O Akbar: A Journey Through Militant Islam [25 words]John MaszkaApr 28, 2019 04:52249517
1Your sarcasm is not necessary [154 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
John MaszkaApr 28, 2019 05:30249517
3I worry NOT about moderate/fundamentalist etc Muslims [289 words]PrashantApr 28, 2019 11:24249517
2Our dear Mr Maszka and argument from "but I read it some where then it must be true"! [60 words]dhimmi no moreApr 29, 2019 14:56249517
ECAW: You have to read the following verses in Arabic and then read Tafsir al-Tabari [41 words]dhimmi no moreApr 29, 2019 15:02249517
1Our dear ECAW and "carcans"? Seriously? [65 words]dhimmi no moreApr 30, 2019 07:13249517
dhimmi no more [17 words]ECAWApr 30, 2019 15:03249517
2Re: Guilt by Connotation [200 words]AnonApr 30, 2019 20:24249517
Our dear ECAW صلى الله عليه وسلم needs to stick Urdu [167 words]dhimmi no moreMay 1, 2019 15:39249517
2Our dear ECAW needs to stick to Urdu! [148 words]dhimmi no moreMay 2, 2019 06:24249517
1Our dear ECAW and evidence that Muslim translations by Pakistanis and Indian Muslims are full of lies! [423 words]dhimmi no moreMay 4, 2019 08:04249517
Our dear ECAW is not aware of the disasters in the book of Islam and this time Ibn Kathir telling us that Muslims should tie non Muslims with chains and bring them to Islam! [109 words]dhimmi no moreMay 5, 2019 10:25249517
Our dear ECAW صلى الله عليه وسلم and one more question [59 words]dhimmi no moreMay 8, 2019 07:12249517
1Our dear Mr Maszka and the bogus word "Islamophobia" and Henri Lammens! [231 words]dhimmi no moreMay 12, 2019 09:42249517
2Maszka, a gaslighting narcisist [218 words]Charles MartelMay 12, 2019 19:13249517
2Our dear Mr Maszka صلى الله عليه وسلم and sarcasm? What sarcasm? [474 words]dhimmi no moreMay 13, 2019 06:58249517
1Our dear Mr Maszka صلى الله عليه وسلم and the victims of Islamic terrorism and in this case the Yazidis [65 words]dhimmi no moreMay 13, 2019 07:38249517
pleading of Satan's lawyer [66 words]Adel SaoumaApr 25, 2019 00:11249489
Dr. Pipes, you give the ostensible scholar, Maszka, too much credit... [210 words]Bryan TaplitsApr 24, 2019 11:15249474
"Moderate Muslims"! [108 words]dhimmi no moreApr 24, 2019 08:24249473
6Charlatans [80 words]AnonApr 22, 2019 19:31249438
Re Charlatans [18 words]John in MichiganApr 23, 2019 23:58249438
1All too Common [31 words]Liatris SpicataApr 22, 2019 19:19249437
4Daniel Pipes Definitely Believes in Moderate Muslims [437 words]David RyanApr 22, 2019 18:10249436
2A long and honorable career. [64 words]Ethan PerksApr 22, 2019 14:17249432
1What resources does Afghanistan have? [124 words]DaveApr 22, 2019 11:11249430
2Afghanistan's resources [319 words]PrashantApr 22, 2019 21:45249430
Afghanistan do have a lot of resources [341 words]Debanjan BanerjeeMay 15, 2019 03:40249430
2Our dear Deb صلى الله عليه وسلم is back! [299 words]dhimmi no moreMay 15, 2019 14:58249430
Our dear Deb صلى الله عليه وسلم and millions of Hindus were the victims of the Muslim invaders of India and he does not care! I wonder why [38 words]dhimmi no moreMay 17, 2019 07:39249430
Our fool's errand in Afghanistan [188 words]JeffMay 17, 2019 11:08249430
2Our dear Deb صلى الله عليه وسلم and Infant Mortality Rates in Afghanistan! [178 words]dhimmi no moreMay 17, 2019 12:50249430
Our dear Deb صلى الله عليه وسلم and more questions! [372 words]dhimmi no moreMay 18, 2019 07:45249430
Our dear Deb صلى الله عليه وسلم and Per Capita Income in Kuffar lands v Afghanistan and Pakistan [60 words]dhimmi no moreMay 19, 2019 06:37249430
Our dear Deb صلى الله عليه وسلم and this time one more question and it is not about the Gospel of Barnabas I promise! [64 words]dhimmi no moreMay 22, 2019 08:22249430
1Prosecutable or not, libel is libel [50 words]JeffApr 22, 2019 11:06249429
Moderate Muslims [54 words]ECAWApr 23, 2019 06:59249429

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