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Making Jewish blood run cold

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Submitted by Michael S (United States), May 31, 2018 at 14:55

Tovey,

It's at times like these, that I'm glad I'm in the company of Jews -- and agnostic Jews, at that. I don't know if the doctrines you speak (mind you, doctrines very, very popular in the Evangelical community) look as nonsensical to Daniel and other Jews here, as they do to me. If you and I agree on anything, it is that the (very few) scriptures you are citing and twisting are, indeed, correct. For instance, all things have indeed been made by the spoken word of God.

Just how you can come to the conclusion that "the WORD could not become flesh in Adam, since when Adam was created (not born, as Jesus was) he was sinless". Say what? Adam was created by the word; adam was flesh; therefore when Adam was created, the word became flesh. That sounds pretty straitforward to me. Maybe we need to revert to Greek, so we can speak a common language.

Jesus could not have resisted the Devil if he were human? What, then, does this mean:

James 4:
[7] Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
[8] Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you...

You've taken "The Devil made me do it!" to the extreme. Is James implying that we have somehow become gods, that we can resist the devil?

There is so much wrong with your thinking -- which again, I will say to excuse you, is a way of thinking that is widespread among Evangelicals. I will not broach those things, though; because then you will be able to ignore me, point by point, and try to gloss things over. Tell me: Are we humans able to resist temptation? or must we become gods first?

If Daniel and others are to get anything out of this discussion, it ought to be this:

1. Evangelicals are the backbone of Trump's support, and the main part of American support for Israel.

2. Evangelicals are ready and willing to turn against EACH OTHER on a dime, over fantastic nuances of doctrines. How much more likely are they, when crunch time comes, likely to turn against the Jews?

The realization of that, ought to make Jewish blood run cold.


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Turkey, Russia, China sliding deeper into dictatorship [197 words]Michael SApr 29, 2018 09:46242863
The Donald, POTUS, demands that Israel be admitted into NATO [628 words]RobertApr 28, 2018 09:54242850
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Holding on to Former Preconceived Notions of a Former Time is Dangerous at Best [308 words]M ToveyApr 19, 2018 15:57242799
Nobody trusts anyone [218 words]Michael SApr 27, 2018 17:56242799
Little Space Between from Imminent to Reality - Circumstances Now are Realtime [214 words]M ToveyMay 2, 2018 13:48242799
God Attacks! and the End-times Inquisition [455 words]Michael SMay 3, 2018 15:06242799
Eternal Sovereignty of the Holy One of Israel Returning For His Own [468 words]M ToveyMay 7, 2018 17:56242799
Such utter nonesense? [219 words]Michael SMay 8, 2018 14:17242799
Recognition of the Father, through the Son, by the power of the Holy Spirit:Where is the Nonsense in That? [197 words]M ToveyMay 11, 2018 10:28242799
Jesus is Jesus; God is God [383 words]Michael SMay 11, 2018 18:44242799
Yeshua Was Not Mere Mortal - Only Yeshua as God Reigns in Eternity [210 words]M ToveyMay 30, 2018 17:16242799
Making Jewish blood run cold [377 words]Michael SMay 31, 2018 14:55242799
Hello, Tovey, are you there? [187 words]Michael SJun 2, 2018 11:43242799
Worshipping the Word of the LORD; The Holy One of Israel [322 words]M ToveyJun 6, 2018 11:24242799
The God of Christians [944 words]Michael SJun 7, 2018 00:25242799
Seeing a Connection in Its Full Context - Who HE Really IS [103 words]M ToveyJun 7, 2018 15:25242799
At last, we agree! Also, Ottoman history and Turkish plans [436 words]Michael SJun 8, 2018 16:02242799
And Who Agreed with Whom? [68 words]M ToveyJun 11, 2018 17:49242799
And Who Agreed with Whom? The Father and Son Agree - [362 words]M ToveyJun 12, 2018 14:01242799
Scriptures concerning Jesus and God [492 words]Michael SJun 12, 2018 14:38242799
As For Turkey and NATO -Who is Really in Control [301 words]M ToveyJun 14, 2018 14:03242799
1Spot On [81 words]Gary SackApr 19, 2018 12:14242797
Turkey's geography, history and today's situation [531 words]Michael SApr 19, 2018 06:24242795
Oops. God vs. Gog [226 words]Micael S.Apr 20, 2018 20:00242795
Perhaps better to allow Turkey to have American weapons [67 words]AnonApr 18, 2018 22:03242791
NATO's Turkish Dilemma Reflects Western Ignorance About Islam [191 words]DaveApr 18, 2018 21:52242790

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