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Submitted by Michael Caplan (Canada), Feb 2, 2018 at 23:25

Mr. Kedar is obviously not a prophet or a fortune-teller, nor is he trying to be. As Mr. Pipes says, he ultimately agrees: Israel should survive and prosper, regardless of its worst neighbours' darkest desires. I'm very gratified to see this convergence of two thinkers I greatly admire. Of course, no one can determine when and if the movement pushing for Israel's destruction is finally rendered irrelevent and impotent; but should that moment arrive, it will come from the two places identified and contrasted by these two approaches: a military defeat from without, and a rejection of militarism from within.

In the West today, and in other parts of the world to greater or lesser degrees, the (in)glorious fantasy of Nazism is essentially discredited (whatever its ongoing vicissitudes). One must believe in the possibillity that Islamic supremacism, too, might be widely rejected as inhumane, self-undermining and suicidally destructive – and such would be the very *substance* of an Islamic reformation.

Unlike Nazism, that faux-pagan kitch religion, Islam is an authentic religion, and I do believe that most of its billions of people, given a true opportunity, would willingly relinquish ideological purity in exchange for realism and life. But such an "opportunity" can, I think, only come about in a lasting way through Israeli victory.

Even Christianity, despite its post-war attempts, is still permeated by anti-Jewish prejudice and structures of belief ... and it isn't the world's fastest growing religion. It's heyday has passed. Judaism and Jews must endure for their own sakes, but Muslims and Christians of good faith can only benefit: Israeli victory, as essential as it is for Jews and all Israelis, will ultimately be a key factor in helping to bring the other two monotheisms to a point of sustainable coexistence. However utopian or idealistic or pollyanna this may sound, there is – in reality, in pragmatic terms – no other way. The "long war," fueled by the "longest hatred," may not be ended by Israeli victory, but perhaps the corner will have been turned.


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Title Commenter Date Thread
1Daniel Pipes "vs" Mordechai Kedar [554 words]Sigmund DermanFeb 10, 2018 14:56242171
1A slightly related item on Israel and the Muslim states. [316 words]PrashantFeb 8, 2018 23:11242141
1Vampire Islam [426 words]Dariush AfsharFeb 8, 2018 14:22242132
Kedar [118 words]williamFeb 4, 2018 11:38242078
Israeli victory [68 words]AnonFeb 4, 2018 08:04242075
Pipes and Keidar are both right. But Arabs need to be relocated [54 words]ShlomoFeb 3, 2018 17:53242074
By Force [741 words]David RyanFeb 3, 2018 17:38242073
So What Else Is New?! [44 words]Barry BlackFeb 3, 2018 10:50242066
For Victory, Learn From The Muslims [151 words]DaveFeb 3, 2018 08:30242063
non sequitur [80 words]rwFeb 3, 2018 06:59242062
Change comes from within and from without [338 words]Michael CaplanFeb 2, 2018 23:25242059
good artical - the Muslims and Jews will never come together. [10 words]Pastor Donald AnamalaiFeb 2, 2018 22:17242057
Normal relation is possible [102 words]BAFeb 2, 2018 17:43242055
Neither a Purist's Religious Dream Nor A Humanist's Reasoning is Cause for Israel's Eternal Determination [262 words]M ToveyFeb 2, 2018 15:44242054
Jordan is the Arab-Palestinian State which is on Jewish land [163 words]YJ DraimanFeb 2, 2018 14:58242052
Jordan is the Arab-Palestinian State which is on Jewish land [247 words]YJ DraimanFeb 2, 2018 14:46242051
Kedar is exactly right ... [405 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
BramFeb 2, 2018 13:24242050
1Not just Arabs and not just Israel [90 words]PrashantFeb 3, 2018 01:23242050
you deal with Kedar, not his premises [107 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Dan SeidelFeb 2, 2018 12:05242049
The Iron Wall [297 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
StuartFeb 2, 2018 12:01242048
Acceptance of Israel by Arabs and Muslims [112 words]Jeffrey SheffFeb 2, 2018 11:45242047
islam accepting israel ceases to be islam [99 words]ValFeb 2, 2018 23:09242047
Muslim Reformation [32 words]Barry BlackFeb 3, 2018 15:23242047

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