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The Iron Wall

Reader comment on item: "Arabs and Muslims Will Never Accept Israel as the Jewish State"

Submitted by Stuart (United States), Feb 2, 2018 at 12:01

To me, Jabotinsky's 1923 "Iron Wall", which espoused a complete victory by Israel in which Palestinian leadership gives up its hope to one day conquer Israel, is essentially what the Israel Victory Project means. Quoting Jabotinsky:

[T]his does not mean that there cannot be any agreement with the Palestine Arabs. What is impossible is a voluntary agreement. As long as the Arabs feel that there is the least hope of getting rid of us, they will refuse to give up this hope in return for either kind words or for bread and butter, because they are not a rabble, but a living people. And when a living people yields in matters of such a vital character it is only when there is no longer any hope of getting rid of us, because they can make no breach in the iron wall. Not till then will they drop their extremist leaders whose watchword is "Never!" And the leadership will pass to the moderate groups, who will approach us with a proposal that we should both agree to mutual concessions. Then we may expect them to discuss honestly practical questions, such as a guarantee against Arab displacement, or equal rights for Arab citizen, or Arab national integrity.

And when that happens, I am convinced that we Jews will be found ready to give them satisfactory guarantees, so that both peoples can live together in peace, like good neighbours.

But the only way to obtain such an agreement, is the iron wall, which is to say a strong power in Palestine that is not amenable to any Arab pressure. In other words, the only way to reach an agreement in the future is to abandon all idea of seeking an agreement at present.

I could not have said it better.


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Daniel Pipes replies:

Nor could I. I have often referred to this article and noted that Israel Victory is in its spirit.

I also posted it at http://www.danielpipes.org/3510/the-iron-wall-we-and-the-arabs.

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