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Submitted by David Ryan (United States), Feb 3, 2018 at 17:38

>If they will never accept this reality, how can they possibly be forced "to learn to live with it"?

By force. That force may be exerted once, in which case Israel will exist alongside the ashes of Islam. Or that force may be exerted until Islam no longer opposes Israel, which means Islam has ceased to exist of its own accord. Or that force may be exerted in perpetuity, in which case Israel will exist to the frustration of Islam that is never able to find an open to extinguish the Jewish State and is held immobile, which is what "learn to live with it" implies. Islam that accepts a Jewish State is not Islam. Expecting "Islam that is not Islam" is the contradiction of the Acceptance Project. The same applies to an American State BTW.

QURAN [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.
QURAN [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair [Hebrew: Ezra] is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

QURAN [9.123] O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).
https://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/koran/koran-idx?type=DIV0&byte=282392

IBN KATHIR on QURAN [9.123] "Allah commands the believers to fight the disbelievers, the closest in area to the Islamic state, then the farthest. This is why the Messenger of Allah started fighting the idolators in the Arabian Peninsula. When he finished with them and Allah gave him control over Makkah, Al-Madinah, At-Ta'if, Yemen, Yamamah, Hajr, Khaybar, Hadramawt and other Arab provinces, and the various Arab tribes entered Islam in large crowds, he then started fighting the People of the Scriptures."
http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1578&Itemid=64

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [2925, 56:138, 4:52:176] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "
http://sunnah.com/bukhari/56/138

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [2926, 56:139, 4:52:177] Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."
http://sunnah.com/bukhari/56/139

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [3593, 61:100, 4:56:791] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!' "
http://sunnah.com/bukhari/61/100

HADITH Sahih Muslim [2921a, 54:101, 41:6981] Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.
http://sunnah.com/muslim/54/101

HADITH Sahih Muslim [2921c, 54:103, 41:6983] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: You and the Jews would fight against one another until a stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.
http://sunnah.com/muslim/54/103

HADITH Sahih Muslim [2921d, 54:104, 41:6984] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: The Jews will fight against you and you will gain victory over them until the stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; kill him.
http://sunnah.com/muslim/54/104

HADITH Sahih Muslim [2922, 54:105, 41:6985] Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.
http://sunnah.com/muslim/54/105


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