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Submitted by Michael S. (United States), Jul 9, 2016 at 19:31

Hi, Tovey, you said,

"So reviewing these things enough to finally make an observation was an effort that required to observe some of the new factiousness that is still resultant from the Islamically friendly entreaties that resulted from the American Administrative Candidate's campaign invective that he would, indeed, make face time with the Iranian regime in order to capitulate and give in to their demands of 'nuclear parity.'"

You got so exuberant there, I think you forgot to include a subject and verb. You continued,

"The Cairo 2009 speech was the initiating dialogue that consummated the Iran deal, but also noted for giving the 'extremists' of Islam carte blanche for the uprisings, much of which are still festering."

Forgive my bluntness: I used to be an editor:

First clause: "...speech ...was ...dialog."

What you're saying, is that (in Obama's mind, at least) the Iran deal was already consummated in 2009. I think you're right. Between then and 2015, however, when the ink dried on the Iran agreement, Obama craftily disguised this fact; so that Iran had time to develop the high nuclear weapon capability it now has; a capability with which it threatens Israel, Russia, Europe and, to some degree, the entire world.

Obama 1. The world 0. We all got sucker-punched.

Second clause: "...deal ...gave ...carte blanche (for uprisings) ...[to] extremists."

What you're saying, is that in his 2009 speech, Obama opened the floodgates for all the crap that has happened since then in the Middle East. I agree. There were many junctures, where he could have changed the course of things for the better; but he didn't, because he didn't want to; and we should have known he didn't want to, by simply taking his speech seriously.

We were fooled again: Obama 2, World 0. You know the saying, "Fool me once, it's your fault; fool me twice, and it's my fault." It's our own fault that we allowed this monster to drag us into the hell we have today.

Obama is a clever man: evil, but clever. You went on,

"That being said, benign Islamism will not be a time of remembering meaningful dialogue meant for peace; but just the opposite will be catalogued for the students of the future."

I don't think so. I'm very pessimistic about students even of today, and their ability to meaningfully "catalogue" things. If Obama were to disappear; and return in another black body with the same political backers and giving the same teleprompter-generated speeches, he would be returned to office by the same demos. Then, the same disasters would happen, only on a grander scale.

You went on,

"Islam... has yet to abate itself in its march for the ummah and caliphate..."

This Caliphate-building movement in Islam will continue, until it is spiritually defeated. As long as "The West" stands for promiscuity, adultery, homosexuality, general libertinism and lack of punishment of evildoers, Islamism will continue as a potent force in the world. People in the West have been cajoled into thinking they can actually continue in a world of such wickedness; but the Islamists know better. Islam has yet to abate, and will continue to abate, unless God sovereignly intervenes. You went on,

"This latest resurgence from Cairo 2009 will be the proof that what they had hoped to achieve in these modern times they will find is inconsistent with any long term assimilation of future history..."

(Thus far, I don't understand this...)

"... Ask how the Ottomans already proved that and Erdoǧan still tries to do the same thing in the face of ISIL."

You seem to be saying, "The Ottomans have already proved that... what [the Islamists?] had hoped to achieve... [will not last?]"

I'm a little baffled here. No, none of this will last: The West and its ways will not last, and neither will Islam (militant or otherwise). Neither of these are sustainable philosophies. Only the Word of God will endure. I expect a sudden collapse of the other two in a matter of decades, perhaps years.

Shalom shalom :-) Supper's on -- gottarun.

Submitting....

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