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Submitted by Ron Thompson (United States), Nov 24, 2013 at 13:43

I agree with Dr Pipes that Obama and Kerry have made a bad, and worse, unnecessary deal with Iran. Unnecessary because the sanctions that brought Iran to the table would have brought further dramatic results in the near future or, at worst, led to a military crisis on far better terms than will now be available if and when Iran reneges on this deal and the spirit behind the sanctions has been compromised.

But WHY the impulse to link this bad deal with the Health Care Law?

Is it to praise the fact that the United States alone among developed countries still doesn't provide meaningful health care coverage to all its citizens? Is it to advertise the fact that the Republicans, who are almost hysterical about this law – so hysterical that they came within hours of causing the united states to default on its debts - at the same time have offered no alternative to the 50,000,000 Americans who lack basic health care coverage? And who, along with millions more Americans with weak coverage, are alone in the developed world in facing the risk of medical bankruptcy?

I often have the wish to ask every Republican who is on television yelling about "socialized" medicine, and shouting "repeal, repeal, repeal" if THEY are without health care insurance. And if they or their parents are on Medicare, do they call this "socialized" medicine too? (actually, I guess some do).

I have long deplored the fact that we no longer have any political animals called "Cold War Liberals". As in Franklin Roosevelt who, with his New Deal and his early, strong awareness of the Hitler threat, was a cold war liberal before the term was invented. As in Harry Truman, who defended the New Deal and sought universal health care even as he strongly opposed the new Soviet threat. As in John Kennedy, who supported the civil rights the republicans are now trying to undo and unravel with their shameless voter suppression laws, while still facing down Khrushchev. As in Henry Jackson, who opposed the Soviet union with seminal legislation and stoutly defended Israel even as he had supported the New Deal in his earlier years and continued the defend its social welfare accomplishments. (It's strange that several of his key aides have gone on to further careers in national defense while rejecting or forgetting all that their former boss stood for in domestic affairs).

So why don't we have any parallel to the proud tradition of the Cold War Liberal in this new world-wide threat from totalitarian Islam?

That's a difficult and tragic question, for another paper, but at least, those who are trying to fill the void left by the absence of the 'cold war liberal' should perhaps not be trumpeting their opposition to the only major piece of social welfare legislation on the contemporary scene of US politics, and that long overdue. If they, and Dr Pipes, were trying to fix it, and supporting the principle, they might find a far readier audience among those who used to support FDR, Truman, JFK, and Henry Jackson in their Cold war policies, instead of contributing to the impression that while republicans care about national defense they don't give a damn about millions of Americans without health insurance at all or with highly inadequate or trap-door policies.

I suggest it is a political mistake to link opposition to the Iran deal with opposition to the national health care law.


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3A Separate Reality for Iran [163 words]Michael Hanni MorcosDec 11, 2013 14:32212113
1Barrak Hussein Obama [22 words]Christian SchifferDec 8, 2013 10:42212058
2Also as important -the real Birth Certificate [125 words]Michael Hanni MorcosDec 11, 2013 15:16212058
Sanction relief [96 words]Farhad LahafdooziDec 3, 2013 22:22211995
"Negative possibilities continue to multiply." [41 words]Orange YonasonNov 30, 2013 23:08211939
More Nuclear Deal "Fallout?" [43 words]Orange YonasonNov 28, 2013 10:36211889
4Peacefull nuclear bombs ? [64 words]Michael Hanni MorcosNov 27, 2013 11:48211868
1Uranium-235 it is [33 words]mythDec 15, 2013 11:34211868
2Correction is greatly apreciated [64 words]Michael Hanni MorcosDec 17, 2013 22:43211868
1the certainty of human interference with nuclear technology [116 words]mythDec 27, 2013 08:56211868
And it is not getting better [88 words]Alain Jean-MairetNov 27, 2013 02:10211843
1Step in the right direction [262 words]AnonNov 27, 2013 02:08211842
1I respectfully disagree [65 words]Michael Hanni MorcosDec 13, 2013 01:58211842
1THE WORLD IS BLIND [145 words]JACQUES HADIDANov 26, 2013 21:03211834
1Iran deal with the West [79 words]Rahamim AkeribNov 29, 2013 22:19211834
1It worked out swimmingly with North Korea, what could go wrong? [103 words]JeffNov 26, 2013 18:35211832
Geneva Iranian Accords [143 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Gunther H. SciffNov 26, 2013 18:25211831
1clothing on the black-and-white photo from München reveals the misunderstanding [78 words]mythNov 27, 2013 07:08211831
1more machiavelli - less obama says the NZZ [281 words]mythNov 26, 2013 16:42211828
He is given full scope [70 words]PermReaderNov 26, 2013 12:27211822
2The Iran Deal--President Obama's True Objectives [101 words]emmettNov 26, 2013 11:45211818
We saw it coming [64 words]David W. LincolnNov 25, 2013 12:07211796
Nov. 4 Geneva agreement gives time--to who? [163 words]Richard StoeckerNov 25, 2013 11:34211795
1Iranian treaty is the 21st century version of 'Sulah Hudaybiyyah' [91 words]PrashantNov 27, 2013 22:38211795
And now we want their "help" [46 words]JeffNov 25, 2013 10:16211791
1The Geneva Agreement with Iran.....Now this is really being a Friend to Iran. [71 words]AnneNov 25, 2013 08:38211787
Oh, oh? This just in. [14 words]Orange YonasonNov 25, 2013 07:45211785
master of disasters [50 words]FrankzNov 25, 2013 07:01211781
5GOD SAVE US FROM OBAMA [8 words]Sardar Ravi Ranjan SinghNov 25, 2013 06:29211778
sad day [54 words]david morrisNov 25, 2013 06:09211776
War From An Unexpected Source [67 words]Haym RabinovitzNov 25, 2013 05:16211775
Ukraine turns away form west and towards Russia [41 words]Norbert WeinbergNov 25, 2013 02:07211771
1Bad diplomacy, but hardly a disaster [318 words]Dan SimonNov 25, 2013 01:53211770
Iran vs the rest of the world. On the photo op they all look happy!! [54 words]steven LNov 25, 2013 00:31211766
end game for Obama's style of peace making, [145 words]rodney allsworthNov 24, 2013 21:46211765
Iran & Obama [19 words]steven LNov 24, 2013 19:31211759
1There are other Obama Administration disasters already established. [182 words]Bill - NYCNov 24, 2013 17:43211751
1Netanyahu's Silver Linings Playbook [69 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
AlexNov 24, 2013 17:02211745
Thank You/Surprised [86 words]AlexNov 26, 2013 20:59211745
come now Daniel, let us pray that you're not a prophet of doom! [116 words]WassimNov 24, 2013 16:50211744
Middle East Cold War Hypothesis [91 words]John in MichiganNov 24, 2013 16:15211736
1A mistake? [110 words]johntNov 24, 2013 15:57211732
2Your article "The Geneva Agreement with Iran: A Foreign Policy Disaster" [146 words]P. CogleyNov 24, 2013 15:25211728
Ignoring the Obvious [120 words]Harry TaftNov 24, 2013 15:01211724
"Shame on us Americans for re-electing Barack Obama." (November 23, 2013) [17 words]Yoel LarryNov 24, 2013 14:16211723
Whimper, or bang? [14 words]Orange YonasonNov 26, 2013 12:54211723
Nuclear Canard ? [59 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Gary ClarkeNov 24, 2013 14:10211722
Why the Unfortunate Linkage? [577 words]Ron ThompsonNov 24, 2013 13:43211720
Prior to the agreement....... [43 words]DaveNov 24, 2013 13:15211718
1Just add to the lies [70 words]Benjamin MargalitNov 24, 2013 13:11211717
3IRAN Deal [311 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Carl GoldbergNov 24, 2013 12:59211716
IRAN vs ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN [52 words]Carl GoldbergNov 28, 2013 11:51211716
There's more than enough blame to go around [137 words]Doug MayfieldNov 24, 2013 12:54211714
2Murdered of Humanity & Suicide for America [21 words]Ravi Ranjan SinghNov 24, 2013 12:54211713
1Historic Mistake?! - Time will tell! [518 words]NuritGNov 24, 2013 12:37211712
1GENEVA NEGOTIATIONS [60 words]samNov 24, 2013 11:55211711
1This is not an error by Obama et al. - it is intentional [45 words]AviNov 24, 2013 11:17211709
1JIZYA [24 words]SunshineNov 24, 2013 11:00211708
3Betrayal [7 words]Robin RosenblattNov 24, 2013 10:55211707
3The biggest sell-out in U.S. history [62 words]Michael Hanni MorcosNov 24, 2013 10:47211706
details please [64 words]Richard CorbettNov 24, 2013 09:59211703
1"Shame on we Americans for re-electing Barack Obama!" [99 words]Orange YonasonNov 24, 2013 09:58211702
Compounded disaster [96 words]SHmuel HaLeviNov 24, 2013 09:50211701
1I Disagree; It's Not Obama's First Disaster [23 words]Alan SteinNov 24, 2013 09:09211700
1Peace in our time? [50 words]Dr. Richard L. BenkinNov 24, 2013 08:52211699

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