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Ahmed Rehab and the words islam and istislam

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Nov 14, 2010 at 08:36

Dr. Pipes

I just finished reading an article by Ahmed Rehab about the fact that the word islam does not mean submission (to Allah) as the right Arabic word that means submission is really Istislam and that islam would have been called Istislam instead of Islam and he is right but not for the right reason and he does not even give credit to danielpipes.org for such fact

I urge the readers to google "Istislam" and the first hit is going to be a post from danielpipes.org and it is


dated 2/14/2009 where I stated the fact that the word islam does not mean submission to Allah and if the word Islam really means submission (to Allah) then the word would have been Istislam instead

I also urge the readers to google "istislam dhimmi no more" and you will get 25 hits that go back to 2007 about the same subject

Now how did the islamic tradition come to the conclusion that Islam is about the submission to the will of Allah? Are you reading this Ahmed Reahb? Well here is the answer the two most important of doctrines in islam are

1. al-tawheed or the unity of Allah

2. al-qada' wa al-qadr or the doctrine of pre-destination and that Allah micro-manages every thing that Muslims do and this is why Muslims have to submit to what ever his actions and this is what the foundation of Islam is all about but it has nothing to do with the meaning of the word islam

So did you learn something new today Ahmed Rehab al-ikhwani?

I do believe that Ahmed Rehab reads danielpipes.org and that he, shall I say, "borrows" conclusions that he cannot undestand but he does not give credit neither to this site or to the author of the article

For the readers: The Arabic language have root system and from the root we have stems but once you have a word in a stem it would not share any meaning with a word from another stem And here is an example and in this case the root SLM

1. Yislam means he becomes Muslim, Islam means (and it is a proper name) the religion of Islam, Islami means this that belongs to Islam

2. Yastaslim means he surrenders/submits, Istislam means surrendering/submission and this has been posted not once but several times here in danielpipes.org

3. Yastalim means he recieves, Istilam means the recieving

4. Yusalim means he provides greetings, Salam means greetings/peace

So you can see that the word islam does not mean submission or receiving or even greetings or even peace

But did Ahmed Reghab al-ikhwani give credit to this site? No he did not and I call this shameful. Are you reading this Ahmed Rehab?

Oh Ahmed Rehab's education? He did study computers sciences. He did not study history or islamic theology or Arabic language. Oh yeah he might know his Egyptian Arabic but i believe that his knowledge of classical Arabic is as poor as his logic. In a following post I will go through his article word by word and expose him as no more than a demagogue

So what does this word islam really mean? Are you reading this Ahmed Rehab? Well if we examine the extant literary sources we come across the word Islam for the first time 72 years after the death of Muhammad in the inscriptions of al-Masjad al-Aqsa in Jerusalem as you shall see below and the first time the word Muslims or al-muslimeen appear in the literary sources is in a papyrus written by the governor of Egypt in 767CE or more than 150 years after the death of Muhammad. So what did those invaders of the Middle East, aka the Arab masters of Ahmed Rehab and his likes, call themselves? They called themselves al-muhajiruun (Moagaritoi in Greek and Mhgraye in Syriac) and not Muslimeen so we know that even the name of this new religion and the name of its followers were still in flux for up to 150 years fater the death of Muhammad

Now as I stated the word islam is now only a proper name but the origin of the word as has been argued by Luxenberg must be from Syriac and it goes as follows in the following inscription from al-masjad al-aqsa (dated 692CE)

ina al-deen 3inda allah al-islam and yes it made to to the Qur'an Q3:19 and Luxenberg translates it as

1. The word deen really does not mean religion and we indeed have a perfect Arabic word for religion and it is milla (religious community) and the word deen here is the Syriac word Deena or the right (reading of scripture)

2. 3inda allah means with Allah

3. al-islam here does not mean the religion of Islam but it is from Syriac shalmuta or conformity/agreement/concord and indeed if you read the rest of the inscription the following word unlocks the meaning of the word Islam and it is wa ma ikhtalafa or discord/disagreement

So the word islam really means agreement/concord/conformity

Are you reading this Ahmed Rehab?

Oh there will be more

And thank you Dr. Pipes for allowing us to expose scounderls


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