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Re: No Smoke And Mirrors- Just The Facts

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Submitted by Aymenn Jawad (United Kingdom), May 12, 2009 at 03:44

Dear Orange Yonason:

"Think what you will, but the facts don't support your fantasies".

Mea culpa. I should have worded better the statement you quoted. Howbeit, it is a fact that the centre Left does not support eugenics. Below is a list of centre-left political parties: UK Labour Party. Parti Socialiste. Spanish Socialist Workers' Party. Democratic Party (USA). Sozialdemokratische Partei Deutschlands. The Greens (Germany). Partito Democratico. Liberal Democrats (UK). Show me which one of these parties endorses eugenic programmes. You claim to be "dealing with the essence of the Left".

Who are you to define what that essence is? Is there a Pope of Leftist doctrines who issues decrees on what is the correct Leftism? Yes, there is undoubtedly a set of political doctrines that define the Left to an extent (e.g. government intervention in the economy), but to say that eugenics is a mainstream leftist view is ridiculous. "Martin Luther King was a conservative Republican". Yes, he was registered as a Republican but that does not negate that he espoused social democracy (see the wikipedia entry with citations).

Now, here I agree with you: the role of Republicans in the Civil Rights Movement has often been neglected. I can vouch for the fact that every Civil Rights Act passed in Congress more Republicans voted in favour than did Democrats, even when Republicans formed a minority. But that does not mean that no one on the Left supported civil rights for all racial groups (the NAACP et al. were founded by socialists). You then claimed that I was trying to "mislead" readers. You have misunderstood my main point. You provide a link to some "far Leftists" in their own words. I am perfectly aware of the radical and sinister agenda of the Far Left. That is beyond dispute. However, you then tar the ENTIRE political Left as being of the same cut of cloth as the far Left.

Yours faithfully, Aymenn Jawad.


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Title Commenter Date Thread
Sorry I missed this [196 words]GertrudeDec 11, 2012 18:02201351
4David Myatt- Apostate from Islam and Ex-Fanatic. [700 words]Aymenn Jawad Al-TamimiNov 28, 2012 22:11201031
LATEST UPDATE [27 words]orange yonasonJul 10, 2009 13:09158720
Orange Yonason [138 words]Aymenn JawadJul 16, 2009 06:27158720
Supplementary Material [10 words]orange yonasonJun 7, 2009 12:23156952
Re: Failure to Reply to my Responses [12 words]Aymenn JawadJun 13, 2009 06:17156952
The Failure Of Aymenn Jawad [198 words]orange yonasonJun 14, 2009 18:30156952
The Failure Of Orange Yonason [359 words]Aymenn JawadJun 16, 2009 12:10156952
The Failure Is Still Aymenn Jawad's [179 words]orange yonasonJul 3, 2009 16:17156952
Re: The Failure is Still Orange Yonason's [322 words]Aymenn JawadJul 4, 2009 04:02156952
It Was Right Under My Nose The Whole Time [132 words]orange yonasonMay 11, 2009 00:37155219
1(neo) - Nazi is NOT Extreme Right [112 words]TopnifeMay 7, 2009 00:47155054
The Problem With Calling Any Form Of Nazism "Right Wing" [214 words]orange yonasonMay 3, 2009 01:53154844
Re: The Problem with Calling Any Form of Nazism "Right Wing" [158 words]Aymenn JawadMay 4, 2009 07:10154844
RE - Making Generalizations, And False Accusations [289 words]orange yonasonMay 6, 2009 12:05154844
Re: Making generalisations and false accusations [376 words]Aymenn JawadMay 8, 2009 18:50154844
No Smoke And Mirrrors - Just The Facts [264 words]orange yonasonMay 10, 2009 01:52154844
OK, I Have A Few More Minutes After All [261 words]orange yonasonMay 10, 2009 02:56154844
Re: No Smoke And Mirrors- Just The Facts [322 words]Aymenn JawadMay 12, 2009 03:44154844
Re: OK, I Have A Few More Minutes After All [224 words]Aymenn JawadMay 12, 2009 05:22154844
Re: The Far Right and Islamists [205 words]Aymenn JawadMay 2, 2009 16:15154829
This is a long-standing alliance [48 words]Kepha HorApr 18, 2011 20:54154829

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