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Nura: Why does Allah tell disbelievers to commit suicide (22:15)?

Reader comment on item: Europe or Eurabia?
in response to reader comment: Now our dear Nura is pontificating about suicide

Submitted by Plato (India), May 14, 2008 at 22:02

Nura you wrote:

>> Western countries have one of the highest rates of suicide in the world, NOT ISLAMIC COUNTRIES!!!<<

In Western countries suicide is a private matter which dismays everyone. What about Islam??

>>. ..Islam FORBIDS suicide…<<

Islam does not forbid suicide. Read: 022.015 YUSUFALI: If any think that Allah will not help him (His Messenger) in this world and the Hereafter, let him stretch out a rope to the ceiling and cut (himself) off: then let him see whether his plan will remove that which enrages (him)!

Now Nura here is Allah telling disbelievers in the messenger to go hang themselves i.e. commit suicide. The frustration of Allah (Muhammad) is clear from this and this is his advice to those who think that the apostle is helpless.

>> What if a soldier went by himself into a battalion of enemies knowing that he would die for his country? He is then a HERO. He died a heroic death, no. Was it suicide?<<

Now read 9:111 where Muslims are encouraged to kill or be killed in return for a promise of paradise. Asking Muslims to die for the pleasures of heaven is not a call to commit suicide? Why do you think Palestinians sing the praises of their ‘HEROES' who die as suicide bombers? Why were they not angry or dismayed by these suicides?

Now do you wish to abrogate these verses as they were meant for the time of the prophet?

Regards

Plato


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