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Problem with Semantics - Islam, Islamism, Islamofascism and Americans

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Submitted by Singha (India), Dec 17, 2007 at 10:15

<<Dr. Pipes Says "Muslims must indeed do much work do modernize their religion, but it is counterproductive to deny them this potential and insist that they remain mired in the horrors of Islamism. Would it not be better to give them a hand to help pull them out?">>

I have written this elsewhere and I reiterate the same. In my narrative 'islamist' and 'islamic' mean one and the same.

The discourse in United States that somehow muslims and islamists are two different entities is problematic and is likely to result in policy failures; I will articulate why.

Some opinion makers believe that a useful purpose is served by creating a distinction between Islam (dealing with religion) and Islamism (dealing with politics). While in theory this semantic approach gives people including muslims the opening to attack islam, it also obfuscates and in a way makes islam, an imperialistic totalitarian belief system, look nice suggesting as if islamism is something different and is the sole problem. Worse as we have seen on so many occasion it makes it possible for muslims to camouflage their intentions under the cloak of moderate behavior and further islamic interests.

India has been a victim of this warped and perverted logic of mixing up islam and islamism. Over a thousand years, efforts by well meaning individuals to moderate islam met with only failures. Recently, the indulgence, tolerance and the kindness of the best known apostle of peace and non-violence in the twentieth Century - Mahatma Gandhi could not prevent Muslims from intolerance and accept as equals those following a contrary faith. The well-educated westernised Muslims such as Mohummad Ali Jinnah, as much as the mullahs such as Maulana Maududi, preferred mobilising Muslims into a separate Islamic nationhood in the process killing millions and ethnically cleansing out non-muslims.

Dr. Pipes mentions about reformation process in Judaism, which he says is similar to islam. He surely knows that the Jews were far more integrated with the non judaic host societies and were traditionally part of the intellectual elite.

Islam and Islamism(poltical islam) remain siamese twins with one single heart. They are two sides of the same coin and are inseparable. Islamists such as Musharraf and the pakistanis have been able to expoit this perception of difference between muslims and islamists very well, positioning themselves as moderates taking on islamists in a mock fight, winking at islamists at a fundamental level, boosting the capabilities of islamists. And Pakistanis have earned over 20 billion dollars for marketing themselves as moderates. Ditto with Saudis who have used Americans to develop their economy while undermining Free values by supporting islamic values world wide. In fact, Saudis have bribed Influential Americans to ensure that their blatantly racist and totalitarian islamic system never gets scrutinized. Handing over one or two muslim terrorists at intervals and assertions of moderation will hardly dent larger islamist potential for mischief.

Taking on Islamism is going to be the fight of the century; a total war. There are no easy options. The Islamists are extremely capable and underestimating the threat is not going to help anyone.

It is time to declare Islam as the enemy to the civlisation and freedom. The costs of obfuscation and refusal to clearly see reality have always been calamitous.

Dr. Pipes, It is indeed productive to deny the possibility of change to Islam; If we assert the contrary, we run the risk similar to Neville Chamberlain's act of wishing for a moderate nazi; We run the risk of helping islamic world cope with the skill gap that exists today between them and the free world and directly contribute to enhancing muslim capability for damage.

Singha

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good muslims? - what are they worth? [37 words]G.VishvasJan 1, 2008 09:06117276
Islam is holy and noble - AND evil and diabolical [707 words]Goran A.Dec 21, 2007 01:31116726
IN A NUTSHELL: WHAT MAKES ISLAM DIFFERENT FROM OTHER RELIGIONS [208 words]G. MarcusDec 19, 2007 04:27116511
What we Can Do To Help Win the War on Terror [1071 words]PDMDec 18, 2007 21:53116491
Its all a matter of apples [24 words]robert aDec 19, 2007 03:32116491
More attitude needed! [212 words]PDMDec 20, 2007 08:47116491
Hatred takes no Holidays [463 words]M. ToveyDec 17, 2007 16:02116369
I agree with you [124 words]YnnatchkahDec 17, 2007 20:00116369
1Reforming Islam requires asking the underlying question: "Is Islam necessary?" [436 words]DrRJPDec 17, 2007 14:35116359
Enlightened Post---Thank You [64 words]BlackspeareDec 21, 2007 12:58116359
Problem with Semantics - Islam, Islamism, Islamofascism and Americans [610 words]SinghaDec 17, 2007 10:15116335
Necessary distinctions [125 words]g murphy donovanNov 25, 2014 07:47116335
9:111 is in the Qur'an [102 words]jennifer solisDec 16, 2007 15:37116278
COMMENT [119 words]markDec 18, 2007 00:32116278
Truth is comprimised by Fear [196 words]jennifer solisDec 18, 2007 23:27116278
quite so.. [109 words]donvanDec 19, 2007 15:48116278
For Mohammed (i.e. Mark) [262 words]Aly aus AegyptenJan 1, 2008 20:12116278
Significant Dates and Jihad [122 words]Daniel HershtalDec 16, 2007 11:03116258
Psychopathic Islamism is the Enemy of Freedom and Humanity Itself [314 words]Domenic PepeDec 16, 2007 00:34116236
Great post - Domenic!!! [182 words]JaladhiDec 16, 2007 19:23116236
Please stop debating and start for the Final Confrontation with the Global Enemy [415 words]VishalDec 18, 2007 15:56116236
Islam and Islamism are same so are the "moderate" and radical Muslims!!! [591 words]JaladhiDec 15, 2007 18:21116220

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