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Islam is holy and noble - AND evil and diabolical
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Submitted by Goran A. (Israel), Dec 21, 2007 at 01:31

In the FP interview Pipes says:

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To Mr. Tefft's comment that "the religion of Islam is 180 degrees antithetical to the American way of life and the US Constitution," I note that he has isolated a virulent form of Islam, that which I call Islamism, and decided it is the whole of the religion, past and future. This is as fallacious as would be taking a certain form of Christianity – say, that of fifteenth-century Spain – and extending it to all times and places." All things change, especially major religions.

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Dr Pipes!

What all due respect to you - how can you say that ?!

It is NOT "as fallacious".

The inquisition was NOT based on the teachings of Christ. Whereas Virulent Islam was, has been and IS based on the teachings of Muhammad.

THIS fact does NOT change.

As for your remark:

"Muslims must indeed do much work do modernize their religion, but it is counterproductive to deny them this potential and insist that they remain mired in the horrors of Islamism. Would it not be better to give them a hand to help pull them out?"

Yes, of course it would be better to give them a hand to help pull them out, but IN ORDER to do that we must face the TRUTH.

I (with a minority of non-Muslims) believe Muhammad's revelations in Mecca were genuine. The Koranic verses from that period reverberate with a healthy spiritual loftiness and greatness. Reverberate not just with inane pacifism (due to a lack of ascendency of his followers during his Mecca period) but with holiness!

On the other hand it is obvious that when he moved to Medina, and when he and his men began robbing caravans and killing innocent travelers, his ego went into his head (grabbing women like Safiyya as spoils in battle, ordering execution of critics like Asma, etc) poisoning his own spiritual legacy. The Koranic verses from the Medina period reverberate with diabolic evil - and so forcefully, that the source of that evil seems to be not human but rather from some high-placed negative astral realms.

Therefore the ONLY way to give Muslims a hand to help pull them out is to help them realize the truth that :

(1) tragically, HALF of their Koran is evil : evil not by arbitrary Western contemporary standards but evil in being against the UNIVERSAL (ethical) LAW of God (what the New Testament calls the "Logos" ; what the Buddha and the Hindus called "The Dharma", and in many other spiritual traditions has been called "The Way")

and that

(2) this TRUTH will NOT kill their religion (the Truth is never counterproductive) because the OTHER half of the Koran (the Mecca verses) is (as many an honest sensitive soul can feel) noble, and from God !

Islam would have collapsed long ago of its own weight if it weren't for the GENUINE gem in HALF of its core - although it co-exists TOGETHER with the FALSE and EVIL PART (infested with what can be called the "Islamitis imbecillicus" virus) in the OTHER HALF of its core.

It is this bizarre blend of the holy (Meccan) and the diabolical (Medina) verses in the Koran which (due especially to their jumbled intemixed sequence) hamstrings many DECENT Muslims who (understandably) fear that if they reject the voluminous obvious evil in the Koran (first and foremost the EXPLICIT injunctions that non-Muslims should be treated NON-humanly, and women SUB-humanly) that then they will have to reject the whole of their religion.

It is THAT fear (not just of punishment by Islamist guardians of the faith but of their own religious super-self and conscience!) of losing the WHOLE of their religion - a sort of "all-Islam or no-Islam" binary choice they think they are cornered into - which (indirectly) mires even decent Muslims in the horrors of Islamism, even if they do not directly approve it.

Goran A.

P.S.

My observation can easily be empirically tested: simply lets publish the Koran in two parts, "I - Koran (Mecca verses)", and "II - Koran (Medina verses)".

ANY non-biased or neutral reader will then surely notice: The former will shine forth; the latter will make him positively sick !

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good muslims? - what are they worth? [37 words]G.VishvasJan 1, 2008 09:06
⇒ Islam is holy and noble - AND evil and diabolical [707 words]Goran A.Dec 21, 2007 01:31
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Islam and Islamism are same so are the "moderate" and radical Muslims!!! [591 words]JaladhiDec 15, 2007 18:21

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