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Submitted by Issac (United States), Jan 2, 2007 at 15:05

Yaakov- Firstly, its great that we are able to discuss this in a polite and civilized way, but unfortunately you still miss the point which is why one may label you as a fundamentalist.

Secondly, what's with the imaginary segol in the word SHABBAT?You're calling me a bigot? I think you have something against kamatzem!!!! (just joking)

An aspect of being a religious fundamentalist is thinking that God sanctioned you to impose your religious views/practices on others, and with all do respect, breaking the Sabbath is not a moral issue- we have to make clear distinctions between moral rules and religious rules. A moral rule would be - thou shall not kill. A religious rule would be something like- thou shall not flip a light switch on Sabbath -- these religious rules for Sabbath can't be moral rules because you are not bothering anyone by breaking them.

You do have to realize that there is a such thing a being a Jew nationalistically speaking without being religious. That is between the Jew and God, not the Jew and you. That discussion should have been settled when we left the middle ages!

It would also be a bad idea to mix religion with the state for two reasons, if you shove religion down the throats of people, you will cause them to hate it, and two, religion mixed in with politics will inherently be corrupted by politics.

About the Big Mac thing, I was exaggerating to make an obvious point in my last posting.

And finally Yaakov, it would seem almost pointless for the Jewish state to continue fighting its present war against religious totalitarians from neighboring countries whose modus operandi is convert-or-die if only to end up with being ruled by religious totalitarians of our own.

One last thing, I would have to say that you calling me bigoted is name calling, I was merely forming an opinion from what I saw from religious people making posts regarding this issue, the fact of the matter was that there were religious people who saw El Al's protection as coming from divine reward for El Al following the Sabbath, and I never said that orthodox jews were uneducated in science, engineering or running a business. I displayed that the Haradim did not care about the airline's issues, which seemed to be well founded.

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Title Commenter Date Thread
1Parasitic behaviour [34 words]Susya Bar DrorJul 15, 2011 05:24187417
Suggestion for El Al [42 words]Omar KajFeb 12, 2007 12:5176914
What is in islam which produces fanatics? [146 words]kalyanFeb 2, 2007 04:5975572
This is supposed to be 2007, not 1007, not 7, not 7 BC, etc. [588 words]IssacJan 16, 2007 22:5573221
Surrender [142 words]Ynna (tchkah)Jan 5, 2007 14:3071750
More Irritation [157 words]FriedmanJan 1, 2007 11:3071318
Unnecessary language [35 words]Yaakov WatkinsJan 1, 2007 19:5271318
El Al GOY [2 words]steven LDec 26, 2006 12:2870611
...Professor [117 words]C FletcherDec 26, 2006 01:4970553
To C Fletcher [26 words]Ynna (Tchkah)Dec 28, 2006 22:4070553
why it would be wrong for El Al to fly on shabbes [112 words]Yaakov WatkinsDec 25, 2006 20:2670531
Don't listen to fundamentalists!!!! [498 words]IssacDec 30, 2006 20:0970531
Religious perspective [218 words]Yaakov WatkinsDec 30, 2006 21:3570531
How one practices the religion ... is a personal choice. [675 words]IssacDec 31, 2006 19:0170531
Religious perspective [526 words]Yaakov WatkinsJan 1, 2007 18:1070531
Practicing the Religion [391 words]IssacJan 2, 2007 15:0570531
Please clarify. [416 words]Yaakov WatkinsJan 2, 2007 16:4270531
Wrong for El Al [32 words]Charles R.L. PowerJan 4, 2007 16:0870531
I have an intellectual perogative because I have an intellect. [312 words]IssacJan 4, 2007 19:1170531
By the way [42 words]IssacJan 5, 2007 11:5970531
You've missed a couple of points [150 words]Yaakov WatkinsJan 6, 2007 23:4470531
One more point [135 words]Yaakov WatkinsJan 7, 2007 00:4170531
Do you want to know what is christianesque? [311 words]IssacJan 9, 2007 20:4070531
Whew. [326 words]Yaakov WatkinsJan 10, 2007 19:0670531
God may have a special covenant with the Jewish people but .... [281 words]IssacJan 11, 2007 20:2670531
One more try. [206 words]Yaakov WatkinsJan 13, 2007 22:3070531
El Al [15 words]Yaakov WatkinsDec 25, 2006 20:1870530
Shabbos Goy [25 words]Melvin LavinDec 25, 2006 19:3070527
Non Sense [383 words]Ynna (Tchkah)Dec 19, 2006 21:4870049

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