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Divide and Conquer Gaza

Reader comment on item: Corbyn, Sanders, and the Need for Israel Victory

Submitted by Robert (United States), Feb 12, 2023 at 10:42

Dear Dr. Daniel Pipes,

You've written another informed article regarding your view that Israel needs a policy of Victory over the Palestinians because it is in fact still in a state of war against them since most (80%?) still dream of destroying Israel as a sovereign Jewish state. But I think there are thee issues that need to be addressed that are not in the interview.

(1) Israel now is seriously distracted and weakened by it civil dispute. Unlike the ISA, Israel is not a bicameral democracy and has now written constitution with a bill of writes (which were added only 2 years later as an afterthought in 1791). In fact, Israel is less democratic than it can be because its Supreme Court is an elitist institution which appoints itself and sends out its own lawyers to advise the government; there is little balance and it can declare any law passed by the legislature is "unreasonable" (= unconstitutional). In fact, in the USA the Supreme Court is not that independent, but more democratic top the extent that it dependents on which party the elected President belongs to when an office judicial federal office is vacated during "his" 4 year term.

(2) I think you are too generous regarding Antisemitism in the world. The fact that Israel is the number one country on the agenda of the United Nations for observation and criticism can only be explained by irrational Antisemitism. It is only partly a matter of Victim-hood; the rest can only be explained by the world's belief in the "classic" Antisemitic text, "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" produced in the Russian Empire on or before 1903; according to this text, Jews dominate the world for their own evil purposes, and so, Israel is the "devious" Jewish state in control of the Palestinians and the "rest" is just a matter of time.

(3) Israel needs to be pro-active in its own war in Palestine to achieve Victory. But you are too reserved (in my opinion) regarding Strategy and Tactics to achieve the Policy of Victory. (I like to use Capitalization of Concepts which is Normal part of the German Language). I imagine, for example, Israel re-conquering Gaza and imposing an administration on it that answers to Israel. Why is it that only Dictatorships can achieve this? Hitler had Vichy France under his wing, as he later succeeded with Italy when Mussolini had to be rescued. Putin also is successful in ruling places where he imposes his police forces and rulers loyal to him (Russia). So why can't Israel rule Gaza as a "Mandate" with Muslim Arabs (18.1% in Israel) and those willing from the West Bank, and turn Gaza into a kind of Hong Kong until it is ready for Independence ans acceptance of Israel's Sovereignty? The United States was successful in Europe after World War II with the Marshall Plan, but not so in Vietnam, Iraq, or Afghanistan. But that does not mean Israel cannot achieve its own "Marshal Plan" in Gaza; "social engineering" is no longer acceptable among conservatives in the USA. However, Israel's unique experience in its "socialist" creation of Israel even won Stalin over when it came to recognizing Israel at the UN in 1948. I can imagine that Israel can "arrogantly" replicate how 13 original USA states systematically joined other states over its history to emerge as the 50 states now on the USA flag. In the case of Gaza, I can imagine Israel creating a viable Palestinian State by dominating its Palestinian residents and restricting severely the Muslim Brotherhood - something Sisi has done in Egypt.

You, Dr. Daniels, are the Ideal person to advocate for such a conquest of Gaza and imposing a democratic regime in Gaza by Israel, but on the condition that Israel is accepted. Regarding the West Bank, it should at least have 20% Jews, and so it would be ideal to give it subsequent Independence but association with Gaza later on. Israel has a right to demand Close Settlements throughout the former Mandatory West Bank; the United Nations has not superseded the sovereignty of its member states, so that Israel is not bound to accept the legal dictum that building Jewish or Israeli homes in the West Bank is "illegal' under "international law."

In summary, my most critical observation is that Israel should impose its will (with military and police powers) on Gaza the way the League of Nations and the subsequent United Nations did under the Mandate for Palestine which was granted to the United Kingdom until 1948. However, my assumption is that Israel would be by far more successful in creating a democratic thriving economy in the rest of Muslim Arab majority Palestine. Why can't Israel do this? It should, subsequently, apply to the United Nations recognition for such a Mandate over Gaza with the proviso that only Israel will determine when Independence for Gaza is safe for Israel's security. There is only one problem I can imagine - and that is rooted in Arab or Muslim Pride, the other side of which is Humiliation. You, Dr. Daniel Pipes, are the expert on this phenomena as an authority on Modern Islam. For Israel to give birth to a successful secular Muslim Arab Palestinian entity in Gaza - would that be acceptable to the "other" (Moslem Arab Palestinian)?

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Daniel Pipes replies:

  1. That's a momentary matter.
  2. Antisemitism is two millennia old. The upsurge in Leftist anti-Zionism since the 1990s needs an explanation about what happened then.
  3. I do not want to enter into tactics. I see my job as pointing to the goal of Israel Victory, not working out its details. As for Gaza, the Israelis are extremely reluctant to go back to the 1967-2005 period of direct control.

Reader comments (12) on this item

Title Commenter Date Thread
1Strategy vs. Advocacy: The Palestinians and their Way [671 words]LudvikusFeb 17, 2023 07:26293354
2What About Greater Syria or Syria-Palestine? [438 words]RobertFeb 15, 2023 11:47293248
2Apartheid Against Jews in Palestine [431 words]
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RobertFeb 14, 2023 21:48293218
1Israel and the advantage to exist [189 words]mythFeb 13, 2023 07:57293115
1Palestinian State: De Facto Gaza & De Jure West Bank [576 words]RobertFeb 13, 2023 17:54293115
1state and citizen [72 words]mythFeb 14, 2023 11:41293115
2apartheid situation in the region [61 words]mythFeb 14, 2023 11:43293115
2The2state "solution" is dead and has been so a long time ago, and the PA Arabs know it... [58 words]אבי לייני AVIFeb 12, 2023 13:05293066
An eventual Palestinian state? [179 words]Steve amesFeb 12, 2023 11:48293063
A Palestine State will be illegitimate at birth [57 words]PrashantFeb 13, 2023 11:27293063
Nations, neighbors and rights [104 words]JeffFeb 13, 2023 20:45293063
1Divide and Conquer Gaza [892 words]
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RobertFeb 12, 2023 10:42293061

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