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Wahhaj, the Amazigh and الفتوحات الاسلامية or the Islamic Openings (read it as invasions)!

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), May 15, 2020 at 16:01

Dr Pipes,

Yes, the Islamic civilization might have been "opulent" at the expense of its victims. In this case the victims were the Amazigh that lived, from time immemorial, in the Western Desert of Egypt all the way west to Morocco.

And this is from an old post of mine:

From Ibn Kathir's book al-Bidaya wa al-Nihaya where he tells the readers about what happened in الفتوحات الاسلامية or the Muslim invasion of the lands of the Berber (the Amazigh) and notice that the word Berber is a derogatory word describing the Amazigh as Berbers or savages. When in actual fact the savages as you shall see were the Arab/Muslim invaders. These invasions started in the middle of the 7th century AD

البداية وانهاية ج 9 ص 171 or the Book of al-Bidaya wa al-Nihaya part 9 page 171

موسى بن نصير أمير المغرب بعث ابن أخيه في جيش فأصاب من السبي ماءة الف رأس ايضا من البربر

This can be rendered as: Musa bin Nasir the Prince of The West (read this as lands west of Egypt or all the way to Morocco or the homeland of the Amazigh) sent his nephew with an army so he captured slaves (he describes them as) 100,000 heads (read this as individuals! the word heads here is used for counting cattle and sheep not human beings or human beings were treated like cattle/sheep) also from the Berber!

What a crime one 100,000 Berbers (read this as the Amazigh) were captured and are treated as cattle/sheep oh there is more:

فلما جاء كتابه الى الوليد و ذكر فيه أن خمس الغناءم أربعون ألف رأس قال الناس إن هذا احمق من أين له اربعون ألف رأس خمس الغناءم فبلغه ذلك فأرسل أربعين ألف رأس وهي خمس ماغنم ولم يسمع في الاسلام بمثل سبايا موسى بن نصير أمير المغرب

This can be rendered as:And when his letter arrived to al-Walid and he mentioned to him in it (letter) that 1/5 of those captured is 40,000 head (read this as individuals) the people said he is foolish how come he has 40,000 heads once fifth of those captured, he was informed and he sent 40,000 heads and they are 1/5 and this has never been heard in Islam like the slaves of Musa Bin Nasir the prince of al-Maghrib!

Shocking and disgusting that human beings are captured an enslaved because they are not Muslims or Arabs

And here is a link to the book

http://ar.wikisource.org/wiki/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%8A%D8%A9_%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%86%D9%87%D8%A7%D9%8A%D8%A9

And here is a great video about the crimes of the invading Arabs of the lands of North Africa if you know Arabic where one million Amazigh boys were sold as slaves in Damascus and 300,000 young girls were sold as female slaves

How disgusting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KgPvWNFGy4

Disgusting: for the readers the imperialist Arabs were capturing and enslaving the Berbers aka al-Amazigh and they are splitting the human booty that they treat like cattle and you, Wahhaj is proud of the imperialist Arabs and Islam?

How disgusting

As for al-Jizya Ibn Kathir tells us that when the Amazigh told the terrorist Amr Ibn al-As that they do not have money to pay the Jizya (the Mafia Islamic tax) he told them to sell their children and wives into slavery and pay him the jizya and you tell us that the mafia tax called al-Jizya did not involve women and children? How come you did not know that?

Oh how much is the Jizya? Well I only tell you what your Islamic sources tell us so here we go are you ready? Here is straight from al-Qurtubi

أَنَّ الطَّبَرِيّ قَالَ : أَقَلّه دِينَار وَأَكْثَره لَا حَدّ لَهُ

Or and al-Tabari said that the minimum is one dinar and the maximum is UNLIMITED (or sky is the limit)

The Arab invasion of al-Maghrib was appalling and it was done in the name of an Arabian deity

So much for the "opulence" of Arabian imperialism.

Any comments Wahhaj?

Submitting....

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