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The Qur'an or is it Qeryana

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Oct 14, 2017 at 06:37

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Rushdie is very correct. The Qur'an is a literary artifact and should be left the way it is What scholars need to do is find the real Ur Qur'an that is not contaminated by the hands of the Persian Mufasereen in the 9th century al-Tabari included

It is ironic that the tradition tells is that the Qur'an we now have is the popular version called رواية حفص عن عاصم or the story provided by Hafs from 'Asem which means it is not even the mythical Mushaf Othman The tradition also tells us that حفص or Hafs was a كذاب or liar when it comes to all the Ahadith attributed to him So if he was untrustworthy when it comes to the transmission of the Ahadith why should we believe his version of the Qur'an

The authors (I believe that the Qur'an has multiple authors) of the Qur'an assume that who ever is reading the Qur'an should be familiar with the well written and well edited narratives of OT NT and Psalms The authors also assume that in the case of Surat al-Kahf (Q18) the reader must be familiar with Asateer al-Awaleen or the stories of fiction of the ancients as in the case of the story of the Seven Sleepers of Ephesus and The Romance of Alexander and the reader can fill the missing Quranic gaps

And most astonishing about the Qur'an is that the authors are very pre-occupied with the fate of the Kuffar including al-Nasara wa al-Yahud at their hands and the hands of Allah which really places Islam within the Judeo-Christian tradition and makes it, as suggested by Wnasbrough, a product of a Sectarian Milieu

The authors of the Qur'an also assume that the reader must have knowledge of Syriac and this must be why the first 2 verses in Surat al-Tin (Q95) are Arabized Syriac They also assume that the reader will understand that Q96 must be the Eucharist and Surat al-Qadr must be Christmas in the Qur'an and that Surat al-Mudathir and Surat al-'Adiyat must be Christian hymns and have nothing to do with Quthm or Abul Qasim (Muhammad's real name and his kunya)

How could this have happened? The Qur'an must have been a كتاب وعض or Christian Lectionary that was used in a Syro-Arabic milieu in the civilized Middle East and does not belong to al-Hijaz But the link was broken in Mesopotamia where the Persian scholars took over the task of explaining what the Qur'an says


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Title Commenter Date Thread
The Flying Cranes [9 words]Pablo KoinoniaJan 1, 2018 06:48241724
The exalted daughters of Allah! [16 words]dhimmi no moreJan 2, 2018 07:55241724
3Persians are most outspoken against the Quran [459 words]Dariush AfsharDec 13, 2017 12:20241560
Thanks Dariush Afshar [99 words]PrashantJan 1, 2018 02:10241560
1Abdul Hussein Zarinkub [57 words]David Reid RossJan 25, 2018 18:45241560
It's nice to hear that [99 words]Dariush AfsharFeb 7, 2018 00:09241560
1Salman Rushdie made a hilarious cameo appearance on Larry David's show and talked about the Fatwa. [29 words]AnonNov 8, 2017 15:36241263
2The Qur'an or is it Qeryana [416 words]dhimmi no moreOct 14, 2017 06:37241065
Koran does not deal with living relationships; only submission [34 words]Michael SOct 14, 2017 06:21241064
rushdie's point is good [269 words]rwOct 9, 2017 08:19241035
You need to understand Rushdi's main point [125 words]Debanjan BanerjeeOct 14, 2017 06:39241035
2More gems from our dear Deb and the Quran is a corrupted book (Gasp) [577 words]dhimmi no moreOct 29, 2017 17:11241035
2Plagiarism revisited [147 words]dhimmi no moreOct 30, 2017 07:44241035
2What happened to سورة الولاية وسورة النورين Were eaten by a hungry goat too? [84 words]dhimmi no moreNov 3, 2017 06:04241035
2Is anyone ever safe? [101 words]PrashantFeb 8, 2013 00:17203317
2The Intolerance of Islam [155 words]WIlliam EastSep 17, 2012 14:41198748
2Islam Encourages Cruelty [57 words]DaveJul 7, 2012 11:11197057
If they play and write computer games, that is a good sign [34 words]PrashantJul 2, 2012 23:49196930
Sincere advice to Salman Rushdie [39 words]Muslimk***Apr 6, 2012 12:39195007
Poor man [48 words]derrickFeb 17, 2012 20:21193437
5World as a hostage [44 words]PrashantFeb 18, 2012 17:10193437
1. . . but . . . islam is the "religion of peace" ! ! ! [36 words]Phil GreendMar 8, 2012 23:06193437
1Dear Mr. Prashant [91 words]Debanjan BanerjeeMar 23, 2012 13:30193437
3Tired of Rushdie?? Heck No! [155 words]PrashantMar 27, 2012 02:26193437
1Dear Mr. Prashant [375 words]Debanjan BanerjeeMar 29, 2012 06:43193437
3Dear Debanjan Banerjee Please Retract your Support of Gilad Atzmon [74 words]BB KingMar 31, 2012 18:36193437
1Rushdie [47 words]dagnyFeb 16, 2012 10:51193406
Rushdie [25 words]angelFeb 8, 2012 05:59193196
fatwas [61 words]DonaFeb 2, 2012 05:04192976
1Blaming Rushdie is incorrect [137 words]PrashantFeb 3, 2012 04:10192976
where does he live currently [11 words]RandyDec 3, 2008 19:43144359

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