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Reader comment on item: Trump executive order 'a great fumble.'
in response to reader comment: The "court" thing is a case of small judges wanting to be big Presidents.

Submitted by Mohammed Waza Khiddif id'Ullah (Australia), Feb 26, 2017 at 05:06

"....1. The deal, which had been cut between Turnbull and Obama in the latter's waning days, was actually an exchange -- Australia agreed to take a like number of Latin American migrants off Obama's hands, as part of a deal:

True - this was organized last year under the O administration. You get 1200 or so muslims and we get a similar number of non-muslims. As bad deals go - we did OK.

2. Turnbull is more interested in deepening his relationship with Donald Trump, a dependable ally, than with the fickle Kiwi. NZ has a reputation for "pushing the limits" in being independent of its allies;
and at any rate, it isn't much of a player on the world stage:

Also true. Out relationship with NZ and its 3.5 million population is probably similar to yours with Canada. Except that thanks to a large part of the white population being descended from convicts - we're a bit more mongrel - with less trust of authority than the we're more mongrel thn the landed gentry that colonized NZ.. Having said that - New Zealand was part of and administered by New South Wales in the 19th century. I think there's a clause in our constitution which allows for NZ to return to the fold. But it will never happen.


"...how you were taking the leaked, "animated" phone call between Trump and Turnbull. I told him the story was way overblown; and you actually liked Donald Trump...

It made the news here - most of the focus was on how leaks like that were allowed to happen in the first place, on Trump's apparently knowing he was getting a bad deal and whether or not it would be rescinded. And , amusingly, Trump referring to Turnbull as Mr, Trumbull. Turnbull is a billionaire in his own right - a former merchant banker and I think a corporate lawyer - so those two would have tried to out-negotiate each other.

Many people here approve of Trump. But if you're aged under about 27 - you're probably doing the politically correct thing and bagging him at every chance you get. Which reinforces the saying that goes something like if you're not a liberal at 20 you have no heart, but if you're not then a conservative at 40 , you have no brain.


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