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Submitted by Michael S (United States), May 22, 2016 at 16:21

Hello, Daniel

It's interesting, that you featured a photo of Erdogan with European Commision President Jean-Claude Juncker. Juncker, along with European Parliament leader Martin Schulz, represent a problem to the world, and to Israel, that is greater than that posed by the President of Turkey.

I disagree with you, that Erdogan is likely to make a "fatal mistake" any time soon. He is, after the dust of Western propaganda has settled, very popular in Turkey. You are making the same mistake in assessing Turkey's situation, as you have been in assessing the US Republican nomination and the coming US Election -- and for that matter, also in prematurely predicting the fall of ISIS. Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Donald Trump and ISIS/ Da'esh, as different as the three are, all represent the will of millions of people -- even though all of them also represent values that are apparently anathema to you. Because of this, you are substituting outcomes that you WANT to happen, for an objective analysis of the situation.

My own prediction of Erdogan, based on past performance and current trends, is that the Turkish President will continue to rule, in an ever-more dictatorial fashion; that he will continue to use the Kurdish "terrorists" as the excuse for his country's problems, and that the majority of the Turkish people will continue to fall for his rhetoric. Combining this with the Biblical prophecy that Turkey will eventually lead a coalition including Iran, Sudan and Libya in an attack on Israel, I would not be surprized if Erdogan would be the man who carries this out; though obviously, the situation between Turkey and Iran must first reverse itself.

Concerning Juncker and Schulz, the latest I've heard from them is that they have been meddling in the Austrian election; adding this to their meddling in the Dutch referendum on the Ukraine and the upcoming Brexit vote. In this, they have been joined by German President Merkel and French President Hollande; and in the case of the Brexit, they have been joined from across the ocean by America's own President Obama. The significance here is that while the consequences of the votes in Austria, the Netherlands and the UK will certainly impact Germany, France, the EU and (marginally) the US, along with all parts of the world to some degree, those votes are part of the democratic processes in the countries involved and should be off-limits to involvement by leaders of foreign countries.

The same should be said about the US nomination and election process, wherein Barack Obama has legitimately used his bully pulpit to attack the Republican nominee-presumptive; but in which the British Prime Minister has VERY inappropriately weighed in. WHAT THIS IS BEGINNING TO LOOK LIKE, IS NOT SEVERAL INDEPENDENT NATIONS CONDUCTING THEIR OWN PRIVATE BUSINESS, BUT AN INTERNATIONAL CONSPIRIACY OF OBAMA-MERKEL-HOLLANDE-JUNCKER-SCHULZ TRYING TO DICTATE HOW THE CITIZENS OF THOSE SOVEREIGN STATES SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT VOTE.

The situation in Turkey will affect the countries around it; but this larger conspiriacy among the leaders of the EU and the US is a matter of worldwide concern. What ought to be purely internal matters in the nations of the West, it seems, have become trans-national concerns; and this trans-nationalist, global conspiriacy does not represent the will of the PEOPLE of any nation. Rather, it represents the will of the multi-national corporations that are secretly hammering out the details of the TTIP union of Europe and the US. It is that conspiriacy that is threatened by the Austrian elections, by the Dutch referendum by the upcoming Brexit vote, and closer to home, by the possible election of Donald Trump, an anti-TTIP candidate, as President of the US.

I notice that you, Daniel, have, by design or accident, lined up with the TTIP forces and the trans-national government they aim to insidiously implement. Do you really want to see a government run by the wealthy elite of the world replace the current Wesphalian system of sovereign states? That is what the Bushes and Clintons have been working to build, along with the European leaders -- a group that, on the whole, has viciously attacked Donald Trump and his nationalist agenda. In the end, it is this very internationalist movement that will attack Israel and ITS sovereignty as an independent state. That will certainly happen, in not too many years; but we ought not be promoting it.

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What timing on this article [9 words]
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Questions regarding NATO and Turkey [52 words]
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2Daniel Pipes, and the anti-Israel Trans-national movement [731 words]Michael SMay 22, 2016 16:21229584
States of Pre-Mental-illness largely represented amongst general population but mostly ignored [228 words]BorekMay 22, 2016 08:18229577
Narcisists, Megalomaniacs and other Demoniacs [166 words]Michael SJun 7, 2016 16:10229577
NO psychoanalysis of any SS and War criminal but outdated psychiatrical stubborn concepts of diagnosis [164 words]BorekJun 12, 2016 17:55229577
Should people even want to be normal? [350 words]Michael SJun 15, 2016 05:25229577
Michael you are right, but [170 words]jakeJun 18, 2016 02:51229577
1There is hope [1163 words]Michael SJun 19, 2016 22:24229577
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Israel should wake up to the danger of a Turkish attack [457 words]Michael SMay 23, 2016 17:05229550
Have More Confidence In The Turkish Military [108 words]DaveMay 26, 2016 10:14229550
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What is happening to Turkey's Military [36 words]Michael SJun 5, 2016 06:29229550

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