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A bit misleading again

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Submitted by Alexandros (United Kingdom), Feb 19, 2013 at 21:07

It is true that Erdogan is a very able politician, it is also true that Davutoglu is a very able strategist as well, the problem is that this does not mean they will be useful for Turkey. What i want to say by this is that being able does not mean that you will do good as well. Erdogan is playing a very dangerous game an imperialistic one. What he has is not a dream, but a nightmare, he thinks that he will dominate the region, he will be a Sultan and no one will react.

He has convinced the US that this situation will serve it's interests better than anything else, with arguments that really make me worry about the efficiency of some people in Washington, even if someone thinks that their planning is driven by the principle of the lesser evil, for example he has used this arbitrary opinion that Greeks and Serbs and you added Cypriots will co-operate with Russia, so the American interests will be served by the Turks and the Balkan muslims, who he considers Turks probably. Of course he did not point out that the only country in the region which does actual business with Russia is Turkey, Gazprom is storing gas in Turkey and also selling gas, instead Greece and Cyprus have no actual business with Russia.

As for the laundering you refer to, there is actually a Cypriot Bank that was fined for such actions, guess what, it was on the occupied side of the island the Turkish Bank Ltd! And one more thing, give me a historical example in which Russia supported Greece more than other European powers against Turkey, so to understand where your opinions for the Russian aid are based. Oh and gas has been found

In addition Turkey is not exactly hostile with Iran, there is trade between the two countries against the UN sanctions and also they share quite similar opinions in the Kurdish issue.

Probably, Russia will not want a very strong Turkey, but this does not mean it would want a weak Turkey as well in the Shangai agreement, because Turkey could be more pro-Russian than pro-Chinese, for example, with the proper returns.

You write that Turkey will need the Western technology to defend itself, but the thing is that Turkey is not threatened by anyone, it usually is the other way around.

I fully agree with your paragraph referring to the Turkish educational system, but this does not mean that Turkey will not manage to have qualified personnel, it just means that it will be mainly full of fanatic Jihadists, Davutoglu the other day stated that the world has got wrong the Jihadists, deep down are nice people.

Anyway, i repeat, appeasement of the Sultan is not an option for any country because appeasement means immediately submission. The Israelis should really consider which forces inside their country wouldn't care to revive their alliance with a Turkey that wants to dominate in the region in expense of the other countries and arm Turkey, even though Turkey is threatening the other countries and Israel itself by using it's own weapons against it.

Submitting....

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We dare you to [95 words]Nazim CairoMar 1, 2013 17:57203953
ı agree [109 words]havasMar 2, 2013 01:47203953
1Turkish chest Beating [44 words]Robert WFeb 24, 2013 15:28203826
Israel never had a friendly relationship with this Turkish regime [135 words]Herbert GrossmanFeb 20, 2013 18:48203724
1Enemy? Trade is booming between Israel and Turkey [52 words]
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Can OzFeb 19, 2013 18:31203659
hostile to turkey ?? [27 words]roger spleenFeb 20, 2013 06:07203659
appeasement hysteria [45 words]BenFeb 23, 2013 16:45203659
3When will they ever learn...WILL they ever learn? [112 words]NuritGFeb 19, 2013 16:48203658
Israel Not Doing Anything The US Has Not Already Done [113 words]M. ToveyFeb 19, 2013 12:52203655
3Very enlightening and disappointing article i could say. [290 words]
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AlexandrosFeb 19, 2013 11:41203653
1me and three other guys [160 words]mythFeb 19, 2013 10:55203652
2There Should Be An Apology For Marmara - But Not What You Think! [43 words]
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Ron AnderFeb 19, 2013 09:53203651
2DOESN'T ISRAEL REALIZE WHEN A COUNTRY SPITS IN ITS FACE? [155 words]Ilene RichmanFeb 19, 2013 09:16203649
Relations with Turkey [53 words]Leonard MarkowitzFeb 19, 2013 08:20203644
1... analysis :) [36 words]JoshFeb 19, 2013 07:41203642
1Politics is the art of the possible [397 words]MozereFeb 19, 2013 07:22203641
3A bit misleading again [526 words]AlexandrosFeb 19, 2013 21:07203641
11Israeli-Turkish relationships VS Israeli alliance with Greece , Romania , Bulgaria and Cyprus!!! [173 words]Gregoris GregoriouFeb 19, 2013 02:45203634
2factional differences in Israel partly explain the stupidity [313 words]EliyahuFeb 20, 2013 08:48203634
8The explanation is America's secret agenda, not Israel . [559 words]IanusFeb 20, 2013 16:13203634
Turkey has always been the most brutal murdering country of all time! [14 words]BobMar 18, 2013 13:46203634
2Turkish AWACS. [120 words]Steven LFeb 19, 2013 00:54203631
Futile Israeli Efforts to Win Ankara Back [112 words]Judith DaviesFeb 19, 2013 00:04203629
a death wish? [37 words]RitaFeb 18, 2013 23:04203626

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