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Submitted by Anne Julienne (Australia), Nov 7, 2012 at 17:24

No democratic process is perfect and we surely can learn from one another. Two things stood out for me as seeming to be outrageous from an outsider's perspective. First, the money spent on the campaigns, perhaps ten billion dollars (if you include the extras like the cost of the primaries, costs to volunteers, secondary organisations, etc). There is an old saying: "look after the pennies and the pounds will look after themselves". In this case it would be: "look after the billions in campaigning costs and the trillions in debt might be paid off sooner than you might think".

The second thing that really really shocked me was the nuts and bolts of the actual voting process. It just looked like a third world fiasco. Different rules and voting formats in different states and even in different counties. Huge opportunities for voter fraud and many voters disenfranchised (voting forms not reaching overseas forces, hurricane relief workers unable to vote absentee without notice).

And the queues! I refuse to vote if I have to wait half an hour on a queue. I saw many instances where people were prepared to wait for hours. Ditto for entry into the rallies. What's the point in attending a rally anyway? What is gained by that, apart from a bit of excitement? No, for me, voting here in Australia has lost its gloss but I can understand why many Americans don't bother at all. It's not just an imperfect system. It's bad and it's fixable by taking just a few sensible measures like having the presidential election overseen by one authority and disallowing fabulous spending. I won't be dreaming about seeing those changes in a hurry, though.

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Americans, I call on your sense one last time [382 words]NuritGNov 3, 2012 21:29200284
Where's the "Obama has embraced the Muslim Brotherhood" issue? [273 words]Wallace Edward BrandNov 3, 2012 21:03200283
2the view from Australia [57 words]Anne JulienneNov 3, 2012 20:26200282
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1Whoever wins, Wall Street wins ! [84 words]IanusNov 6, 2012 04:33200282
Dreams of Whose Father's [498 words]M. ToveyNov 6, 2012 19:00200282
no miracle after all [11 words]Anne JulienneNov 7, 2012 06:57200282
1Wall Street has won ... as always [217 words]IanusNov 7, 2012 17:17200282
1a couple of details [282 words]Anne JulienneNov 7, 2012 17:24200282
1Vassals of Wall Street Won Nothing They Can Keep - Their Wealth is Already Corrupted [398 words]M. ToveyNov 7, 2012 18:38200282
There Will Be NO Democracy in Heaven - A Second View [273 words]M. ToveyNov 7, 2012 18:57200282
keeping it simpler [75 words]Anne JulienneNov 8, 2012 17:33200282
Then Let's Try This for Simplicity [307 words]M. ToveyNov 13, 2012 14:48200282
You forget the Elohim ... [71 words]Anne JulienneNov 13, 2012 16:49200282
Elohim is Not Forgotten - Neither Does He Forget Except in Mercy [335 words]M. ToveyNov 15, 2012 12:09200282
lol [36 words]Anne JulienneNov 15, 2012 19:13200282
Superficiality Not Merely A Political Issue - But It is Definitely a Social One [346 words]M. ToveyNov 16, 2012 14:03200282

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