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Addendum: The Muslim Rabbis part two

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Aug 12, 2012 at 09:04

Doug wrote

You cannot separate the founder of any religion from that faith, since it's practiced based on their directives. The teachings of Mohamed as stated earlier are only an extension of the social order he lived under, and are irreconcilable with the practice of peace.

I meant to tell you that the most embarrassing traditions in Islam are the traditions called الاسراءيليات or al-Isra'eeliyat or those traditions that belong to the Jews and here is how it is well explained by a Muslim poster

الإسرائيليات هو اسم يطلق على الأحاديث الموضوعة المنقولة من كتب التوراة والإنجيل. في علم الحديث تستخدم أيضًا كلمة إسرائيليات لوصف حديث ضعيف أو غير موثوق به، أصل الكلمة يعود إلى أعراف وتقاليد (اليهودية - المسيحية) وأيضًا من النبي محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم. الإسرائيليات غالبًا ليس لها قصص مفسّرة في الكتاب المقدس. وفي اليهودية (מדרש وتنطق Midrash وتعني يدرس) وهي أن تعطي معلومات أكثر أو تفسيرات حول الأحداث والقصص التي حدثت عن طريق شخص في النصوص اليهودية. وأغلبها تكون محرفة وغير صحيحة

And I read it as: al-Isra'eeliyat are the ahadith (plural of hadith) that come from the Turah (read this as the 5 books of Moses) and the NT (sic) and because these traditions were linked to Judaism they were always considered as weak traditions and were regarded with great suspicion about being true Islamic traditions and the word al-isra'eeliyat are the lore and traditions of the Jews and Christians (sic) and Muhammad (sic) and these are stories explained in a Jewish midrash and they belong to the Jewish tradition and most of them are corrupted traditions

And indeed what came to be recognized by the ulama as al-Isra'eelyat was no more than what the Muslim rabbis brought with them to Islam including male circumcision (gasp!) Which is not even mentioned in the Qur'an but its origin is indeed in the layer of al-isra'eelyat and do not even assume that the Arabs practiced it before Islam (and yes I realize that Sozomen tells us in the 5th century CE that the Arabs in the Gaza area practiced it)

So you see converts indeed bring to their new religion their old religion and nothing seem to be new under the sun

Religions Islam included do not drop fully fledged from the sky

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