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Submitted by Lars Nielsen (Denmark), Nov 16, 2010 at 15:08

Dear Mr Tovey

I originally commented mr. Pipes for stating, that republicans are better friends of Israel as democrats. Mr Pipes argued, republicans are the best friends, because they are most sympathetic to Israel, and I argued, that democrats are the better friends, because they are more concerned with the interests of USA.

You then commented, that Israel has a divine right to exist.

I replied, that this right depends on religious arguments, which are not shared by everyone.

I then went on to argue, that although UN has voted, that Israel has a right to exist, there is no common agreement on its boarders or how to deal with the palestinian refugees. There must therefore be found a common solutions to these problems, on which all parties concerned will agree.

I also pointed out, that it is not in the interest of USA to work such a solution, because it will be easier for USA to dominate the Middle East , if the countries there disagree. This is, what I mean by divide and rule.

You now answer, that it is not possible to work out a political solution, that will satisfy all parties, and I agree. There will only be peace between Israel and its enemies, if either

- one of the parties eliminate the other, or

- both parties are so battered, that they are willing to compromise to achieve peace

I therefore strongly disagree with your opinion, that USA might establish peace through moral leadership, because no leadership is possible, if people are not willing to listen

At last, You return to your argument, that God will decide the fate of Israel. I agree on that, but I disagree, when You state, that God will maintain Israel. Israel has not existed as a state in nearly 1800 years, because God decided so, and he may decide so for another 1800 years. That is not for us to say, and therefore, your argument is in fact blasphemy, because it is not for us to decide, what God shall do.

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Title Commenter Date Thread
1Are republicans reliable friends ? [281 words]Lars NielsenNov 1, 2010 18:58179823
1Support for Israel Should be Unified - There Will Be No Democrats or Republicans in Israel's Kingdom. [546 words]M. ToveyNov 5, 2010 12:36179823
I missed Your argument [396 words]Lars NielsenNov 9, 2010 17:44179823
There is No Argument Where There is Common Understanding of Truth [689 words]M. ToveyNov 9, 2010 18:55179823
We are not discussing the same issue [342 words]Lars NielsenNov 16, 2010 15:08179823
Look Closer in the WORD of the LORD - Israel's Future IS the Issue. [959 words]M. ToveyNov 16, 2010 19:40179823
Not all Jews are descendants of the Israelites [90 words]Muhammad SaidNov 19, 2010 06:53179823
The Promise of Almighty God is in Action in Israel....to the Descendants of Abraham... TODAY! [183 words]M. ToveyNov 25, 2010 11:37179823
The Concept Of Neither [126 words]Jay1Oct 26, 2010 19:29179657
Demurrer [270 words]Harold BergsonOct 25, 2010 15:49179619
1The Eternal Sovereign Recognizes No Power Over His to Those Who Trust in Him Instead of Governments [723 words]M. ToveyOct 26, 2010 12:54179619
3Respectfully yours [660 words]GetRealOct 29, 2010 06:38179619
Bravo! [99 words]GetRealNov 4, 2010 08:33179619
Re: Israel and Congressional Democrats [51 words]Reuven BoruchOct 24, 2010 12:08179595
1Politics of Division - Even Attempting the Division of Jerusalem - Not in the Plan of the Eternal One [142 words]M. ToveyOct 28, 2010 18:57179595
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Democrats and other in Congress and elsewhere [44 words]steven LOct 19, 2010 19:29179446
2support for Israel: [159 words]levy benjaminOct 19, 2010 17:58179440
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Israel is Not a Phenomenon - But a Certain Biblical Reality [791 words]M. ToveyOct 20, 2010 15:34179434
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eating pork [81 words]marvin gerberOct 19, 2010 15:06179433
2Location, Location, Location! [75 words]FroikeOct 20, 2010 13:55179433
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4The divide on Israel is between liberals (mindless drones) and conservatives (independent thinkers) [96 words]JohnOct 19, 2010 10:59179423
2a friendly note regarding Israel and Congressional Democrats [36 words]Ellen SantellaOct 19, 2010 10:56179422
2A finer breakdown might be helpful [136 words]Archimedes2Oct 19, 2010 10:38179420
9Collectivism vs. Idividualism [130 words]Ralph C. Whaley MDOct 19, 2010 09:10179412

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