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Submitted by Ilene (Costa Rica), Jun 9, 2010 at 18:04


The term Jordyptian came about to draw the attention to the true identity & origin of the --migrant settlers-- Arab Palestinians


  • 1 Definition
  • 2 Background
  • 3 The general historic phenomenon of Arab invasion settling outside of Arabia
  • 4 Dispelling a myth of "native" Palestinians
    • 4.1 Arab immigrants' children, grand-children now called "Palestinians"
    • 4.2 Separate extinct non-Arab ancient nations: Philistines, Caananites & undisputed Jews' original home and roots in Israel-Palestine


The term Jordyptian – Substitute name for "Palestinian," based on the fact that most modern-day self-identified "Palestinians" are descended from Arabs who emigrated from either Jordan or Egypt, (though, many of today's Palestinians' grandparents are from Arab Syria [1] as well), and the fact that there never has been an actual independent nation called "Palestine" nor an identified ethnicity called "Palestinian" until recently in political history. Jordyptian is a contraction of Jordanian and Egyptian. [2]


It's a term coined about the mythical "Palestinians" being compared falsely to 'native Americans.' [3]. Much relied on "color" and perception, that these brown people are from the area [4], which is true, they are from the middle east, just not from Judea, Israel, Palestine, but from Arabia more percisely.

Speaking of "color," over 50% of Israelis are of middle eastern "brown," omplexion.

The general historic phenomenon of Arab invasion settling outside of Arabia

Millions upon millions of non-Arabs became refugees because of the Arabs. Many of these people fled to America, Great Britain, Germany, and elsewhere. They're not claiming or trying to return to those "Arab" lands. [5]

For example, in the neighbouring country, Egyptians today by-in-large aren't natives either, the indigenous Coptic Christians are the original inhabitants, the ones oppressed under the Arabs, who have invaed that country.

So is Morocco, overwhelmed by Arab settlers upon the indigenous Berbers [6], who suffer racism from the Arabs as well.

Dispelling a myth of "native" Palestinians

It is pointing to the true identity of the so-called Palestinians. The current myth is that these Arabs were long established in "Palestine", until the Jews came and "displaced" them. The fact is, that recent Arab immigration into the Land of Israel displaced the Jews. That the massive increase in Arab population was very recent is attested by the ruling of the United Nations: That any Arab who had lived in the Holy Land for two years and then left in 1948 qualifies as a "Palestinian refugee". [7] [8] [9] [10]

Arab immigrants' children, grand-children now called "Palestinians"

The massive evidence of huge waves of Arab immigration into a neglected desolated land of Palestine Israel, the (main) roots and origin of today's Arab Palestinians. [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [7] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] [23] [24] [25] [26] [27] [28]

In fact, President Roosevelt concluded in 1939 that "Arab immigration into Palestine since 1921 has vastly exceeded the total Jewish immigration during the whole period." [29] The huge flow of Arab immigration was permitted while only Jewish immigration was restricted. [1]

Separate extinct non-Arab ancient nations: Philistines, Caananites & undisputed Jews' original home and roots in Israel-Palestine

Considering the etymology of the name 'Palestine' will be instructive. The word 'Palestinian' comes from a Semitic radical p-l-sh or p-l-s, which, in Hebrew, means: to burrow into; to open through; to penetrate; to invade. The root exists in a number of other extant and extinct Semitic languages. In Aramaic-Syraic it means to break through; to dig. In Akkadian palashu meant to dig through, while pilshu meant 'hole'. In Ethiopian the pejorative term "Falashas" means 'invaders' or 'emigrants'. The term fallasa in Arabic means he cleft; he split. (See: A Comprehensive Etymological Dictionary of the Hebrew Language for Readers of English,' by Ernest Klein, Carta Jerusalem, 1987 by The Beatrice & Arthur Minden Foundation and the University of Haifa). The Semitic radical p-l-s or p-l-sh is the etymological base of the name of those who were called "Plishtim" (Philistines) in the Hebrew Bible. The area they inhabited, Pleshet, was the coastal strip south of Yaffo (Jaffa). They were probably people of Greek extraction, called the "Sea Peoples" who invaded the area sometime around 1300 – 1100 BCE (See: 'Toldor The History of The Jewish People and the Nations of the World,' compiled and prepared by Abraham Lebanon, Jerusalem 1985). The Plishtim are not, at any rate, the ancestors of the modern-day Arabs who refer to themselves as "Palestinians." [30]

The word plesheth meant migratory referring to the migration of the Philistines into the sea coast of Israel. So the Palestinians of 3000 years ago were, in fact, the Philistines. The Philistines were not native to Israel, in fact, as their name implies, they came from somewhere else. Most scholars agree that they came from the Greek Islands, most likely Crete. Obviously, they did not speak Arabic and they were not Semitic like the Jews and Arabs. The Arabs came from guess where?--Arabia. [11]

The Canaanites disappeared from the face of the earth three millennia ago...
Even the Palestinians themselves have acknowledged their association with the region came long after the Jews... Over the last 2,000 years, there have been massive invasions that killed off most of the local people (e.g., the Crusades), migrations, the plague, and other manmade or natural disasters. The entire local population was replaced many times over. During the British mandate alone, more than 100,000 Arabs emigrated from neighboring countries and are today considered Palestinians.

By contrast, no serious historian questions the more than 3,000-year-old Jewish connection to the Land of Israel, or the modern Jewish people's relation to the ancient Hebrews.

"...[the Palestinian Arabs'] basic sense of corporate historic identity was, at different levels, Muslim or Arab or - for some - Syrian; it is significant that even by the end of the Mandate in 1948, after thirty years of separate Palestinian political existence, there were virtually no books in Arabic on the history of Palestine.."[12] Jews are indigenous to the Palestine region and have lived there continuously for over 3,000 years Zionists hoped to live in friendship and cooperation with the Arab population and believed that restoring the land would benefit everyone. Many Arabs welcomed this development, which also attracted Arab immigrants. An estimated 25 percent to 37 percent of immigrants to pre-state Israel were Arabs, not Jews


Some examples of Jordyptian being used. [32] [33] [3] [34] [35] [36] [37] [38] [39] [40] [41] [42]


  1. ^ a b http://books.google.com/books?id=LsgnW34jp90C&pg=PA31
  2. ^ http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/oopsthat-would-be-the-password-protected-lgf-dictionary
  3. ^ a b http://www.lindasog.com/archives/2008/04/terrorists_for_obama_1.html
  4. ^ http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/?p=52528
  5. ^
  6. ^ http://www.un.org/WCAR/e-kit/backgrounder4.htm
  7. ^ a b http://www.imninalu.net/myths-pals.htm
  8. ^ http://www.ldolphin.org/palestinians.html
  9. ^ http://books.google.com/books?id=w9uhNmefCIgC&pg=PA255
  10. ^ http://www.danielpipes.org/article/1110
  11. ^ a b http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/site/comments/who-are-the-palestinians-and-who-is-occupying-what/
  12. ^ a b http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf1.html
  13. ^ http://christianactionforisrael.org/never_arab.html
  14. ^ http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=28222
  15. ^ http://www.imninalu.net/myths-pals.htm
  16. ^ http://www.allthingsbeautiful.com/all_things_beautiful/2006/01/the_myth_of_pal.html
  17. ^ http://www.meforum.org/article/522
  18. ^ http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_early_palestine_zionists_impact.php
  19. ^ http://www.shalomjerusalem.com/jerusalem/jerusalem100.html
  20. ^ http://www.israelinsider.com/views/articles/views_0240.htm
  21. ^ http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27661
  22. ^ http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-doron081402.asp
  23. ^ http://www.think-israel.org/tzoref.pafallacy.html
  24. ^ http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/?p=52528
  25. ^ http://www.amichai.com/war/process/illegalArabs.htm
  26. ^ http://www.think-israel.org/silon.refugees.html
  27. ^
  28. ^ http://mideastoutpost.com/archives/000096.html
  29. ^ http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp507.htm
  30. ^ http://doreenellenbelldotan.info/IsraelIsNotAnImperialistState.htm
  31. ^ http://www.ifcj.org/site/PageNavigator/sfi_about_history_rebirth
  32. ^ http://www.hnn.us/comments/105114.html
  33. ^ http://www.theaugeanstables.com/2006/06/12/is-it-pallywood-thoughts-on-the-footage-from-the-gaza-beach/#comment-2071
  34. ^ http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?link=68907_Israeli_soldier_shoots_handcuffed_palestinian_with_rubber_bullet
  35. ^ http://www.solomonia.com/blog/archives/008891.shtml
  36. ^ http://brainsurgerywithspoons.blogspot.com/2006_07_01_archive.html
  37. ^ http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=343943057519&topic=13465
  38. ^ http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/03/18/unlv-editorial-israelis-indiscriminately-kill-civilians-palestin
  39. ^ http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/12/spencer-if-the-shoe-fits-throw-it.html
  40. ^ http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?7974-Have-we-just-witnessed
  41. ^ http://hotair.com/archives/2006/12/15/kerry-ill-talk-to-iran/
  42. ^ http://www.segacs.com/2004/spiritual-leader.html-a-new-style-elections&p=148796&viewfull=1

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