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sharia IS for losers

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Submitted by the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan (Australia), Sep 8, 2009 at 05:49

"But since in my point of view Islamic law have a spiritual & moral background within it's rules, I don't mind."

But Muslims don't even have a consensus on Sharia!

The Third Reich had its own laws - so did the Soviet Union. People blindly followed them, sometimes disagreeing but putting up with it silently . Those who dared to question openly were dealt with. Seeing the sharia laws are what you've been led to believe is right for you - I guess you don't have much choice. You'll continue with your beliefs. Maybe some day you'll realise that everyone else has been very happy for a very long time without them and have never and will never have any need for them. They may have been appropriate 1000 years ago in primitive semi-tribal cultures. But 21st century socieities see them for what they are - brutal and retrograde.

"...It's no different with you choosing to live according to Australian government rules... you may not like some of the rules but you gotta follow through...."

It's completely different - don't even try to make a comparison. Australia's laws are not based on religion. Apostasy from a pre-medieval middle eastern cult is not dealt with here by taking someone's life. Women are not stoned for having affairs. Homosexuals are not put to death or jailed. Shoplifters and other thieves do not have their hands cut off. No one is publicly whipped for drinking alcohol or smoking a joint. People are completely free to change their religion.

"Freedom to submit or not is both freedom... right..."

If you are not allowed to make the wrong choice - it isn't freedom at all.

"Qur'an 109 : 6 - To you be your Way, and to me mine.
Isn't that freedom...?"

No - that's more indifference. It just says 'I couldn't give a rat's arse about what you believe'.

Now, putting aside that one little quote from Mo's earliest period - do you want me to pull out any of the plentiful verses in your little green book that are completely against freedom of choice for individuals?

Submitting....

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Title Commenter Date Thread
Strict Punishment [55 words]melvin polatnickJun 25, 2010 11:40174823
och the game of those naughty naughty infidel!! [65 words]seraphimeJun 21, 2010 03:58174612
If pulling other people tooths considered sharia, that's bs.... [52 words]FajriAug 24, 2009 23:44160609
freedom in Islam? [154 words]the Grand Infidel of KafiristanAug 26, 2009 17:18160609
Blind following of any doctrine is a path to disaster. [233 words]GeorgePSep 4, 2009 04:28160609
Sharia Law is a set of laws [169 words]FajriSep 5, 2009 00:16160609
freedom in following Islam [95 words]FajriSep 5, 2009 00:31160609
sharia IS for losers [353 words]the Grand Infidel of KafiristanSep 8, 2009 05:49160609
get over it [248 words]the Grand Infidel of KafiristanSep 8, 2009 06:04160609
Sharia is an excuse for theft [125 words]EdwinJun 18, 2010 09:27160609
Malaysia - new frontier of Islamism [820 words]VijayAug 21, 2009 03:07160482
Dentistry, a new profession under Shari'a! [39 words]M.D.Aug 19, 2009 16:45160432
Islam running rampant [99 words]Rebecca MouldsAug 17, 2009 09:42160312
See a connection? [15 words]anonymousAug 16, 2009 12:00160261
Islam at its best ? Islam at its worse ? , no, ..Islam at its average ! [134 words]Phil GreendAug 14, 2009 10:23160198
false of daniel pipes [49 words]imySep 8, 2009 19:11160198
imy's claim... [29 words]KlewSep 9, 2009 00:18160198
Very Well said, Phil- about this islam. [39 words]SvetSep 9, 2009 03:10160198
Another victim of Arabian imperialism and ignorance [373 words]dhimmi no moreSep 9, 2009 07:13160198
Well, this is not surprising. [163 words]LynnAug 13, 2009 08:23160144
Am I surprised ? Not at all ! [98 words]Anne-Marie DelcambreAug 13, 2009 04:51160138
Delcambre [98 words]VijayAug 14, 2009 06:15160138
to follow the Sunna of Mohammed [58 words]Anne-Marie DelcambreAug 14, 2009 22:09160138
the way forward? [340 words]the Grand Infidel of KafiristanAug 15, 2009 00:38160138
Ideal Muslim [48 words]VijayAug 16, 2009 13:50160138
doing as Muhammad said, not as he did [249 words]the Grand Infidel of KafiristanAug 16, 2009 17:24160138
doing as Muhammad said AND as he did ! [46 words]Anne-Marie DelcambreAug 16, 2009 21:09160138
The sunna of Muhammad [446 words]dhimmi no moreAug 20, 2009 07:20160138
the sunna of muhammad [758 words]muhammadFeb 26, 2010 09:35160138
There is nothing spiritual about Islam [413 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 27, 2010 07:48160138
There is nothing spiritual about Islam [1115 words]muhammadFeb 28, 2010 12:38160138
Our dear Muhammad says that there is nothing spritual about Islam and cherry picking time [279 words]dhimmi no moreMar 1, 2010 18:44160138
More cherry picking and this time our dear Muhammad al-tablighee says that he ain't no Arab in-spite of the fact that the Qur'an says that Islam is the religion of the Hijazi Arabs only [277 words]dhimmi no moreMar 1, 2010 19:31160138
More from our dear Muhammad [98 words]dhimmi no moreMar 1, 2010 19:35160138
Our dear Muhammad and his God says that al-tabligh wa al-da3wa al-islamiyya are against his doctrine of al-qada' wa al-qadr [501 words]dhimmi no moreMar 2, 2010 07:14160138
Gem time and our dear Muhammad and two for the price of one [384 words]dhimmi no moreMar 2, 2010 16:36160138
Our dear Muhammad and two for the price of one and it seems that Islamic da3wa is against Allah's will astaghfirullah part deux [217 words]dhimmi no moreMar 6, 2010 07:48160138
Respect [451 words]muhammadMar 10, 2010 08:29160138
Respect is earned now do you get it? [658 words]dhimmi no moreMar 13, 2010 17:58160138
no no no. respect is an attribute that YOU need to have [584 words]muhammadMar 13, 2010 21:02160138
A tablighee is a tablighee [34 words]dhimmi no moreMar 15, 2010 07:26160138
Our dear Muhammad has nothing to say right our dear Muhammad? [250 words]dhimmi no moreMar 15, 2010 18:40160138
Our dear Muhammad and the "Allah made me do it" and more cherry picking [235 words]dhimmi no moreMar 16, 2010 07:23160138
there is nothing to say about islam, but lots to say about you [508 words]muhammadMar 19, 2010 08:45160138
I thank Allah for making me a kafir big time [393 words]dhimmi no moreMar 20, 2010 18:35160138
More cherry picking time that islam is the religion of the Hijazi Arabs only and other sordid matters [791 words]dhimmi no moreMar 21, 2010 08:31160138
Cherry picking time and "Allah made me do it" [194 words]dhimmi no moreMar 21, 2010 08:51160138
i will spell it out for you [135 words]muhammadMar 22, 2010 08:49160138
Our dear Muhammad has nothing to say [153 words]dhimmi no moreMar 23, 2010 06:37160138
So what did we learn from you our dear Muhammad al-tablighee? [7 words]DaveJul 12, 2010 16:02160138

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