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الاسلام دين ودولة or In Islam there is no separation of the sacred and the profane and more Deen!

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Sep 1, 2020 at 17:35

You wrote:

>We'll look at the political inferences of D-Y-N as this mystery plays out.

In the Judeo-Christian West separation of state and Church is a fact.

In Islam it is: الاسلام دين ودولة or Islam is the religion/law and the state or the sacred and the profane are not separate.

So how do we define Islam? Well Q49:14 provides the answer and here is the verse:

قالت الاعراب امنا قل لم تؤمنوا ولاكن قولوا اسلمنا

This can be rendered as: The Bedouins said we believed, Say (to them) you did not believe and you must say ASLAMNA

Well, the linguistic difficulty is the word Aslama is really poor Arabic. Why? Because this means that a Muslim means he who converted to Islam which is very silly.

Now if we check Tafsir al-Quran of al-Tabari and here is the link:

https://quran.ksu.edu.sa/tafseer/tabary/sura49-aya14.html

al-Tabari tells us:

عن مجاهد قولوا اسلمنا قال استسلمنا

This can be rendered as: From the authority of Mujahid: "Say we Aslamna (we became Muslims)" He (Mujahid) said: Istaslamna or WE SURRENDERED (from the root S-L-M)

So Mujahid is really fixing this poor Arabic!

So the correct definition of Islam is : To surrender (to Allah)! That is what it means and it does not mean submission and it has nothing to do with the word peace.

Are you following me so far? Now let us turn to Q1:4 and this verse comes in 2 literary variants in the Cairo Qur'an it is:

مالك يوم الدين

Or: The Owner of the Day of The Deen (I left it untranslated for now)

And in the Tunisian Qur'an it is:

ملك يوم الدين

Or : the King of the Day of The Deen (See later)

I will leave the word MLK for another discussion and concentrate of Youm al-Deen

The literal translation is: The Day of Law/Judgment/religion

However in this case it really means the Day of Judgment and this is what Ibn Abbas the cousin of Muhammad tells us about the meaning of Youm al-Deen

يوم الدين يوم الحساب للخلاءق وهو يوم القيامة يدينهم بأعمالهم ان خير فخير وأن شر فشر

This can be rendered as: Youm al-Deen (means) the day of judgment for those created and it is the day of al-qiyama (from Syriac) or RISING (resurrection) they are judged with what they have done and if good (deeds) then this is good and if bad (deeds) then bad

So far we defined who is a Muslim (he who surrenders)? What is Islam (no separation of state and mosque)?

More? If the sacred and profane are not separate then Muslims must follow the "law" as detailed in the Qur'an and now we come to the real disaster of Islam and it is in Qur'an 3:104

ولتكن منكم امة يدعون الى الخير ويأمرون بالمعروف وينهون عن المنكر

This can be rendered as: And there will be (for you) a nation that call for the good and they (members of the nation) order the good and end the forbidden

http://quran.ksu.edu.sa/tafseer/katheer/sura3-aya104.html

The real disaster here the Qur'an does not define what is good and what is forbidden and sky is the limit and this single verse has led to so much harm to not just Muslims but also to non Muslims and case in point is jailing women in Iran that refuse to wear the hijab they can be beaten and jailed.

Again, nothing is easy or simple

More Deen to follow

Submitting....

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