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Respect for Law – Legal Obedience or Totalitarian Subjugation

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in response to reader comment: الاسلام دين ودولة or In Islam there is no separation of the sacred and the profane and more Deen!

Submitted by M Tovey (United States), Sep 2, 2020 at 17:10

Any civilization rises and falls on the treatment of the subjects of the realm or the citizen of the state; submission or subjection (or surrender) to the rule of law is basic to the type of government that serves or rules its constituency; and Western Civilization has run the course of most of these types and is now failing because of fundamental flaws in implementing laws.
In the vein of civilized development of governments, in the time of the ancients, religion was intrinsic to life; that being submitted to the influences of deity was considered a part of life. Where this became a circumstance of how much influence should there be given to a deity that cannot be seen was argued and bartered in who was on the throne (the emperor/king being considered deity-still part of the modern scene when considering the emperor of Japan); but potentially in the modern day ambitions of despots (Turkey comes to mind-Syria's a close second-and Iran takes the religious aspect to the edge) and the overpowering temptation to wield more power where the implementation of laws in the republic/democratic venue loses its power due to the weakness of humanity unwilling to obey.
When legal authority had the power of religion as an influence, there was a more determinate resolution to adhere to the law, sometimes willingly, sometimes under compulsion. In the United States, where elitist mentalities took a secularist attitude and misapplied an opinion of law and did not respect the Divine nature of its Constitution, the mantra 'separation of Church and State' was used to redefine where the power of the Constitution was based. Once that division of the religious influences was characterized, the orthopraxy of the American legal system-once the symbol of western civilized enterprise-was separated from the orthodoxy and ne'er the twain will be tolerated again. Thus, your comment [ In the Judeo-Christian West separation of state and Church is a fact..] became Supreme Court law in 1962 when originally it was not.
Then, wonder of all wonders, the dichotomy of the western legal system began a transformation that, as you have demonstrated in your dissertation of Islamic law, became a tool of power no longer serving 'we the people' as originally conceptualized. Now the people became servants to the law, to be adjudicated at the whim of a changing judicial system being weaponized for the downfall of the republican system, using twisted reforms of democratically manipulated legal opinions that refuted the opinions of true rule of law.

Now, your dissertation, once again, helps in determining how the parallel concepts of civilization worked their way through the two millennia since the introduction of the Hebrew Rabbi and His eventual sacrifice by the Aramaic speaking religious leaders of the time to the administration of a differing concept of civilization and application of yet another set of laws, imperially imposed and militarily executed. It changed the course of history that even the most erudite and intellectually discriminate practitioners have yet to understand, even when it transitions from Aramaic through Syriac to Arabic. This dissemination of the Islamic observations of how law is manifest to post empire mentalities is intriguing for the patterns, though in different ideological references, yet still speaks to the irrationals interpretations we see today. Thanks for that.
We await for more D-Y-N.

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