3 readers online now  |  69 million page views

Our dear Md Shafiq: For your Allah's sake explain to us why the Arabs have no clue what the Qur'an is really saying and you claim to know!

Reader comment on item: Shaken Out of Complacency by COVID-19?
in response to reader comment: Allah has promised mankind: His Mercy!

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Apr 17, 2020 at 17:44

Our dear Md Shafiq here is an example at random that even Muslims whose mother tongue is Arabic and they are real Arabs like Ibn kathir have no clue what the Qur'an is saying and is Q69:5 so let us see what it says

فاما ثمود فاهلكوا بالطاغية

This can be rendered as: As for Thamud they were destroyed by al-taghiya (I left this word untranslated as it has no clear meaning as you shall see below)

The disasters? Here we go:

1. No one has a clue who the people of "Thamud" are. Why is that our dear Md Shafiq? Allah has the time to tell us about ants speaking to Sulayman and the wives of Muhammad having a fight but he has no time to tell us about who are really the people of Thamud! Care to explain?

2. As for last word بالطاغية no one has a clue what it really means al-Tabari tells us فاختلف في معنى الطاغية or (al-mufasereen) disagreed about the meaning of the word al-taghiya. Why is that our dear Md Shafiq that by the 3rd century the time of al-Tabari Muslims had no clue what this word means and tablighees like you think that you know what it means? Care to explain?

3. But the comedy does not end here Ibn Kathir provides not one but 4 very different meaning for the word al-taghiya and they are:

a. الصيحة or scream/yell.

b. الذنوب or the sins

c. الطغيان or the tyranny

d. عاقر الناقة or barren she-camel! Seriously? Mashallah a barren she camel

They have no clue what a disaster

So much for the bogus claim that the Qur'an is a Kitab Mubeen or clear book

The moral of the story is why do you believe the veracity of any translation of the Qur'an including Arabic to Urdu? The Arabs did not know what the Qur'an is saying and some Mullah in India or Pakistan translates the Qur'an and foolish people like you believe it.

Dear readers: Never believe any translation of the Qur'an more so written by Indian and Pakistani Muslims

Submitting....

Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments".

Submit a comment on this item

Reader comments (26) on this item

Title Commenter Date Thread
1Reportedly, the US govt already is directing resources to harden the grid against solar storms [142 words]Joel SteinkeMay 8, 2020 13:04258868
The answer is no and the reason is fear [34 words]Reality CheckMay 2, 2020 22:36258818
Event Horizons Have No Silver Linings [283 words]M ToveyMay 10, 2020 15:48258818
Allah has promised mankind: His Mercy! [40 words]Md. Shafiq M.Apr 14, 2020 12:44258576
1Our dear MD Shafiq is it true that Muhammad denied that there are contagious diseases and that we must blame Allah for Covid-19 pandemic? [345 words]dhimmi no moreApr 14, 2020 15:26258576
1Question for our dear Md Shafiq is it true that the Quran says that it is Allah must be the one who "wrote" the coronavirus for humanity? [164 words]dhimmi no moreApr 15, 2020 16:23258576
1Our dear Md Shafiq and so much for the eloquent Qur'an and Q3:175 is a linguistic disaster! [392 words]dhimmi no moreApr 16, 2020 08:55258576
1More questions for our dear Md Shafiq! [222 words]dhimmi no moreApr 16, 2020 10:05258576
1Acts of God [56 words]Michael SApr 17, 2020 03:58258576
1Our dear Md Shafiq: For your Allah's sake explain to us why the Arabs have no clue what the Qur'an is really saying and you claim to know! [350 words]dhimmi no moreApr 17, 2020 17:44258576
1Islam in the West and "Minority Rule"! The process of Islamization with or without Arabization [460 words]dhimmi no moreApr 13, 2020 09:21258559
5G technology, الشيخ علي جمعة and the wisdom of Islam! [67 words]dhimmi no moreApr 13, 2020 17:09258559
Slight correction re: "minority rule" [24 words]dhimmi no moreApr 14, 2020 11:47258559
1Learn from India [72 words]AnonApr 12, 2020 09:59258552
It ought to be said [39 words]anonApr 14, 2020 11:50258552
This, along with the 2008 crash, suggest a more robust system should be in place [205 words]AnonApr 11, 2020 20:25258544
Germany's trade surplus with nothing in return [172 words]mythApr 13, 2020 08:42258544
1Western civilization down the drain [49 words]mythApr 11, 2020 15:42258542
1who needs EMP? biological weapsons far easier [102 words]mythApr 11, 2020 15:34258541
We must change the way we do things [157 words]Ali BabaApr 11, 2020 13:47258538
HAEMP [68 words]Barry BlackApr 11, 2020 10:33258536
5Big changes coming [82 words]Michael Hanni MorcosApr 11, 2020 06:23258535
Discussing the Balkans War on the sinking deck of the Titanic [856 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Michael SApr 11, 2020 05:56258534
Daniel Pipes at his best [17 words]MalcolmApr 10, 2020 03:25258525
the WORST tragedy [39 words]Charles MartelApr 10, 2020 01:07258521
Less personal threats are less concerning [245 words]DaveApr 9, 2020 08:44258510

Comment on this item

Mark my comment as a response to Our dear Md Shafiq: For your Allah's sake explain to us why the Arabs have no clue what the Qur'an is really saying and you claim to know! by dhimmi no more

Email me if someone replies to my comment

Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments".

See recent outstanding comments.

Follow Daniel Pipes

Facebook   Twitter   RSS   Join Mailing List

ADVERTISEMENTS

eXTReMe Tracker

All materials by Daniel Pipes on this site: © 1968-2020 Daniel Pipes. daniel.pipes@gmail.com and @DanielPipes

Support Daniel Pipes' work with a tax-deductible donation to the Middle East Forum.Daniel J. Pipes

(The MEF is a publicly supported, nonprofit organization under section 501(c)3 of the Internal Revenue Code.

Contributions are tax deductible to the full extent allowed by law. Tax-ID 23-774-9796, approved Apr. 27, 1998.

For more information, view our IRS letter of determination.)