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Discussing the Balkans War on the sinking deck of the Titanic

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Submitted by Michael S (United States), Apr 11, 2020 at 05:56

Discussing anything but the coronavirus, in the midst of this unprecedented world-wide upheaval, seems of doubtful utility at the moment.

I compare the current pandemic with the sinking of the Titanic, because what we are experiencing now is akin to the hardly-noticed "bumping" into an iceberg. When the full implications of this crisis finally "sink" in, they will come in like a flood. 32% of those on the Titanic managed to be rescued and go on to experience the pressing issues of the greater world -- such as the Balkan Wars, which led to World War I. For 68% of those on board, it would be the last crisis they would have to deal with on planet earth.

Having said that, I will talk about what you've described as today's "pressing" issues:

1. The EMP device. This may kill hundreds of millions of people, and completely re-orient civilization. That is certainly significant. On the other hand, a full-fledged nuclear exchange, with or without an EMP event to kick it off, would accomplish the same or more -- as could a number of other calamities, such as an even more deadly plague of disease, or a collision/ near miss with a celestial body. The convenient thing about an EMP attack, is that humans can presume to have some sort of control over it -- which we wouldn't have, if a Shoemaker-Levy-9-type collision were to strike planet earth instead of Jupiter. So, it is a threat, but one that is hard to quantify.

2. The demographic suicide of "Western" Civilization. A demographic shift is definitely in the works, and it is as you describe. I am rather fond of the demographics I grew up with, living in a country of largely an English Christian history and predominantly English and German gene pool. Those elements of my cultural millieu have been familiar and comforting; and it would be difficult for me to have to live in a different society, with different rules. Still, these things happen, and have always happened. What troubles me, isn't that the US is gradually being overrun with Mexicans (and Britain with South Asians, etc.), but that my Germanic Christian countrymen are espousing and living ungodly lives, which will ultimately lead to their ruin as people AND as a people.

Life will never return to normal after the COVID-19 outbreak diminishes. We aren't just "appropriating" trillions of dollars to rescue our economy; we are inventing it out of thin air. Post-COVID, the dollar and every other world currency will not be based on anything real; it will essentially be worth whatever the US government says it's worth. As the Book of Revelations says,

Rev 13:

[16] And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
[17] And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
[18] Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

This is no longer something in the realm of eschatological discussion; it is near-future reality, coming to economies near you. Something else that will probably remain with us, long after the COVID crisis "ends", will be the world-wide rule by dictatorships -- surpassing the situation in 1939. De facto martial law is the order of the day right now, in nearly 200 countries. Understanding human nature for what it is, can we reasonably expect the world's leaders, having tasted the concentration of such power into their hands, to readily relinquish it?

For icing on the cake, this crisis has, by and large, not led to an "era of good feelings" wherein nations, faced with a common enemy, have rallied to one another's aid. The US and China are now bitter enemies, the EU is under existential threat because of the unequal burden sharing by its members, and Turkey has come close to war with Russia over Idlib. The situation is similar to that just before the outbreak of WWII.

Will we survive the Coronavirus Crisis long enough to savor an EMP disaster? I believe so. Zechariah even prophesied that sort of thing:

Zech 14
[12] And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
[13] And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the LORD shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour.

That describes a nuclear holocaust, which would possibly be started with EMP attacks.

And would people live to see the culmination of current "Anti-West" demographic trends? I expect that the trend lines will be re-drawn.

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Daniel Pipes replies:

1. As I wrote in the article, EMP can come from the sun.

I wonder if COVID-19 is quite so epochal.

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1Reportedly, the US govt already is directing resources to harden the grid against solar storms [142 words]Joel SteinkeMay 8, 2020 13:04258868
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1Our dear Md Shafiq and so much for the eloquent Qur'an and Q3:175 is a linguistic disaster! [392 words]dhimmi no moreApr 16, 2020 08:55258576
1More questions for our dear Md Shafiq! [222 words]dhimmi no moreApr 16, 2020 10:05258576
1Acts of God [56 words]Michael SApr 17, 2020 03:58258576
1Our dear Md Shafiq: For your Allah's sake explain to us why the Arabs have no clue what the Qur'an is really saying and you claim to know! [350 words]dhimmi no moreApr 17, 2020 17:44258576
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1Learn from India [72 words]AnonApr 12, 2020 09:59258552
It ought to be said [39 words]anonApr 14, 2020 11:50258552
This, along with the 2008 crash, suggest a more robust system should be in place [205 words]AnonApr 11, 2020 20:25258544
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1Western civilization down the drain [49 words]mythApr 11, 2020 15:42258542
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