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Where is the danger ?

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Submitted by Jim (United Kingdom), Feb 4, 2020 at 07:24

(1)To the question is Israel better off with this plan than without it, has to be broken down to (1) If the palestinians accept it (2) If the palestinians do not accept it.

You seem to believe the Palestinians will not accept it. ( My response: Does a single person out there actually believe any of this chimera will be implemented?)

Israel gets gifted up front Jordan valley and parts of Judea/Samaria it needs to ensure its security interests and the Palestinians gets 4 years to accept the peace plan.

After they refuse Israel is no longer bound by the terms of the peace plan and can continue to try to defeat the Palestinians. Except this time it does so from a far stronger position.

So where is the danger.?

(2)You say "Their century-long rejection of Jews, Judaism, Zionism, and Israel is the one and only problem preventing a solution; it must end, immediately, completely"

The trump plan indeed states (page 8) "Palestinian leaders must embrace peace by recognizing Israel as the Jewish state" This is a thousand poisons for Abbas as it negates palestinian nationalism

(3) You say: Forget autonomy; it projects full-fledged independence for the "State of Palestine," a term mentioned an astounding 1,397 times in the course of a 180-page document. Surely, anyone concerned with Israel's security shudders at this imminent prospect.

However it will be a state minus as the palestinians are only too happy to point out with 'limitations of certain sovereign powers '

page 7 A realistic solution would give the Palestinians all the power to govern themselves but not the powers to threaten Israel.This necessarily entails the limitations of certain sovereign powers in the Palestinian areas (henceforth referred to as the "Palestinian State") such as maintenance of Israeli security responsibility and Israeli control of the airspace west of the Jordan River.

page 53 The State of Israel will maintain the right to dismantle and destroy any facility in the State of Palestine that is used for the production of prohibited weapons or for other hostile purposes. While the State of Israel will use its best efforts to minimize incursions into the State of Palestine, the State of Israel will retain the right to engage in necessary security measures to ensure that the State of Palestine remains demilitarized and non-threatening to the State of Israel, including from terrorist threats.

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HALOIMES [28 words]Michael KerjmanFeb 20, 2020 21:58257855
100% agree with you, Dr Pipes [89 words]PrashantFeb 10, 2020 21:17257748
3read caroline glick [33 words]rwFeb 4, 2020 09:16257628
Where is the danger ? [395 words]JimFeb 4, 2020 07:24257626
1What in this plan should be commended? [24 words]
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Vadim AnshelevichFeb 2, 2020 11:48257584
1A peace plan during active war is absurd [26 words]
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NickFeb 1, 2020 21:19257575
two wars account for different priorities [189 words]mythFeb 3, 2020 18:25257575
2don't pet the rattlesnake [124 words]Charles MartelJan 31, 2020 20:04257558
1Plan is a reflection of Trump's narcissism [176 words]DaveJan 31, 2020 11:23257548
1I Think You Missed Something [120 words]
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David RyanJan 31, 2020 10:30257545
No Sir, Mr. Pipes [114 words]David RyanJan 31, 2020 17:10257545
5I saw a terrific comment about this plan [29 words]AnonJan 31, 2020 06:43257542
1Brilliant reactions from brilliant leaders [230 words]JeffJan 30, 2020 22:12257539
Great Plan - Trump is like Kissinger [668 words]RobertJan 30, 2020 12:30257529
The Final Push - The Prompting of 'Peace to Posterity' [441 words]M ToveyJan 30, 2020 12:12257528
WOW! [5 words]Barry BlackJan 30, 2020 14:42257528
1Depends on Perspective - Pessimism for whom; victims of wrong ideology [155 words]M ToveyFeb 3, 2020 12:58257528
"The Ultimate Conclusion" [60 words]Barry BlackFeb 4, 2020 12:04257528
What is Inevitable is Hard to Understand in the Human Frame of Reference [289 words]M ToveyFeb 6, 2020 19:00257528
1Ramallah's Pipe dreams [181 words]J T MeyerJan 30, 2020 11:55257527
2Peace Plans - since Carter have all failed [117 words]Darlene CasellaJan 30, 2020 09:47257525
1about Trump's peace plan [12 words]
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Minju Fluri-YenJan 30, 2020 08:44257524
how to convince the Palestinians? [31 words]Minju Fluri-YenFeb 2, 2020 14:48257524
1Excellent points, BUT . . . [116 words]Peter G. PollakJan 30, 2020 08:09257523
1I hope you're right about that [34 words]Anne JulienneJan 30, 2020 15:24257523
3I agree [92 words]
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Spot On. [74 words]MARK AlexanderJan 30, 2020 00:38257519
Trump Plan [226 words]IssacNewtonJan 29, 2020 23:13257518
1The Benefits of the Deal [68 words]
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SteinJan 29, 2020 21:43257515
1I hope [72 words]SteinJan 31, 2020 05:21257515
Past expereince causes much pessimism [46 words]Harry PlossJan 29, 2020 19:16257509
1Plan Needs Realism [32 words]Barry BlackJan 29, 2020 19:00257508
It's a Variation [29 words]Barry BlackJan 30, 2020 14:50257508
thank you, Daniel [78 words]Anne JulienneJan 29, 2020 18:56257507

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