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After Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, Advovating Treason, and a Coup d'état

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Submitted by Robert (United States), Feb 23, 2017 at 10:22

Arguably, no one would have seen the assassination of Adolf Hitler as a Bad, or Evil Thing.
In fact Germany's History might have been better for the Germans especially,
as well as the World at large. In fact there were six (6) known attempts to assassinate him:

http://www.history.com/news/history-lists/6-assassination-attempts-on-adolf-hitler

But they all failed, and Germany's otherwise Glorious History
continues to be marred by the Nazi stain of its Austrian German molder of the Nazi Party.

Turkey, on the other hand, consists of the following events (with Wikipedia's title):

"Turkish coup d'état may refer to:"

1)1960 Turkish coup d'état
2) 1971 Turkish military memorandum
3) 1980 Turkish coup d'état
4) 1993 alleged Turkish military coup
5) 1997 Turkish military memorandum
6) 2003 Sledgehammer (coup plan)
7) 2004 Sarıkız, Ayışığı, Yakamoz and Eldiven
8) 2007 E-memorandum
9) 2016 Turkish coup d'état attempt
10) 2016 Turkish purges

From that perspective, an American, like Dr. Daniel Pipes, is certainly free to announce
with the range of the hearing of President Donald Trump, and his National Security teams,
that an 11 attempt at a coup, in which Recep Tayyip Erdoğan might seek Political asylum in Iran
would not damage Turkey's history, and might even put an end to the pattern
with the Prime Number of Eleven (11).

But it would be better if Turkey removed the man legally, through the Ballet Box.
Unfortunately for Turkey, however, it is under the non-military equivalent of Martial Law,
which has been effected as a Declaration of a State of Emergency.
This makes it extremely difficult for the Turkish People
to reach a Political Majority for the removal of Turkey's current President,
Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, by any legal means.
Anyone trying to do so is subject not only to the extra-Judicial labe of Terrorist,
but also a Traitor practicing Treason.

That of course, for anyone with a knowledge of modern Turkish history,
is further complicated by the notions of the Deep State,
as well as too many unsubstantiated Conspiracy Theories.

But vocally "supporting" the 2016 coup by a non-Turk, as Daniel Pipes does,
cannot be ignored
as grounds for denial of a Visa to visit Turkey.
And if Pipes found himself inside the Jurisdiction of Turkish police within Turkey,
it would not be a big surprise
if Dr. Pipes was immediately arrested and charged with the equivalent of our
Unindicted Co-Conspirators."

Otherwise, it looks like Turkish History will continue to unfold
on its Hegelian-Marxist Dialectical Path (an Upward Sine Curve, or Spiral-Screw, more or less),
in which, as in Egypt, the Turkish People will find a way
to get rid of the Coountry's Islamization, and almost Theocratic ways,
with a quasi restoration of the Kemalism of Ataturk.

Will former American Diplomat, and National Security Advisor, Henry Kissinger,
whisper in the ear of President Donald Trump
to permit the Secular Deep State of Turkey
to "Decapitate" this "Treasonous" Islamist
who is effectively its Neo-Caliph and Neo-Sultan ?
Well, since Donald Trump isn't one for external Regime Change,
I would imagine that he wouldn't cry "foul" to "Democracy"
if the Turks did it themselves;
unlike Obama, Trump with immediately "Embrace" the latest Accomplice.
What I find so peculiar, is the incredible resilience of Tayyip
in the historical context of Turkish Kemalism;
its as if Trump would proceed undo Washington and Lincoln at the same time.

The alternative is simply for history to await the aging and ultimate demise of Tyrant Tayyip;
I cannot imagine any successor to President Tayyip
who could possibly continue in his path'
here I'm reminded of Cromwell Senior's replacement by Cromwell Junior,
when the era of Britain's Civil War ended in reversal thanks to the less competence of the Son.
Maybe that's why Bush Jr. had to be followed by Obama,
and why Obama's Mrs. Clinton
had to be followed by Donald Trump,
as a "Dialectical" Historical Correction;
I'm not really a Dialectical Ideologue - but my Poetical License
irresistible made me write this way here.


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Historical analogy [31 words]Ephraim LiorMar 16, 2017 17:36237646
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