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I think Frexit will impact France more than Nice.

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Submitted by Michael S (United States), Jul 21, 2016 at 02:39

Hi, Tovey. I had to look up "Holy Writ"... Ah, you mean the Bible. Let me substitute that into what you said:

"Historically, this was made different when America was envisioned: the attempt to provide freedom and liberty as was espoused by a loving exposition of the Bible gave refugees of religious persecution a place of hope."

I talked with Elder William Brewster at his home last year (i.e., I talked with the well-versed actor portraying him). He basically laid out the reasons that his congregation left Scrooby for Leiden, and from thence to America. He and his followers didn't "envision America". He would have been content, to be able to practice his house-church religion freely in Nottinghamshire; but the king's men would have none of it. Once in Leiden, the church found that it was loosing its young people to apostasy; so they came to America out of desperation. The trek of the Mormons to Salt Lake City followed similar lines. I suppose the Exodus from Egypt may have subliminally inspired this.

Also, you said,

"When American values based upon the Bible are overwritten, only one place remains to defend and be defended, by the author of the Bible (i.e. God). Only when that is finally learned will the dark cloud be lifted and the issues of humanity's struggles are left behind, even in the future of France.

Yes, this is true. Jesus said,

Matthew 24:
[37] But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
[38] For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
[39] And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

In 1980, some friends of mine wrote a book called "The Coming World Crisis". The authors saw economic collapse and war in the near future, and gave practical suggestions about how to build an "ark" like Noah's. That ark consisted, essentially, of:

1. a proper relationship with God,
2. a practically functioning church community (We were still semi-communal at the time), and
3. investing in food storage, precious metals, etc.

My food storage got eaten by mice; the church fell apart. All I am left with, is my relationship with God -- which, since the church fell apart, has consisted of faith, hope and a much-less-institutionalized love than what I had in 1980. That's my "ark", and the ark I welcome others into, when France, America and the rest of the world go into meltdown -- as they surely will, in not too many years.

I think Frexit will impact France more than Nice. I think I'll watch the Republican convention for a while on the Internet, then go to bed.

Good night :-)


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