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Wrong premise -- wrong conclusion

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Submitted by Wallace Edward Brand (United States), Jun 6, 2013 at 09:02

This is also known as "garbage in, garbage out" logic.

The premise is that the Arabs are not very well off and this is due to the presence in Palestine of the Jews. That premise is completely false. For example, since the 1967 liberation of Judea, Samaria and East Jerusalem, twice as many Arab children are going to school, average income is significantly higher, higher than average Arab income in the surrounding stages, per capita GDP is higher, higher than the same for Arabs in the surrounding states except those with oil income, the literacy rate is way up, life expectancy rose from 48 to 73, infant mortality went down by 75%, many more Arab homes have running water, electricity and are able to cook with electricity and gas.

Prior to the 1967 liberation there were no colleges or universities in this area -- now there are seven. See: Karsh, "What Occupation". http://www.aish.com/jw/me/48898917.html It was that way from the beginning of the 1900s. The Jews drained the swamps and rid Israel of malaria. It took a stark wasteland and brought it back to a land of milk and honey. See: George Gilder, "The Economics of Settlement" http://spectator.org/archives/2011/06/08/the-economics-of-settlement, Gilder, The Israel Test.

The writer has likely been taken in by the "poetic truth" of the Narrative of the Perpetual Palestinian Victimhood, that can't be dented by facts, reason or logic. http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/2586/palestinian-victimhood-narrative Poetic truths like that are marvelous because no facts and no reason can ever penetrate.

Supporters of Israel are up against a poetic truth. We keep hitting it with all the facts. We keep hitting it with obvious logic and reason. And we are so obvious and conspicuously right that we assume it is going to have an impact and it never does


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