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Submitted by Alexandros (United Kingdom), Jan 4, 2013 at 15:53

First of all, Happy New Year to all!

Both replies i received are quite interesting and even though i think that Kepha Hor is quite raw to his comment, he is not that much wrong, even though he misses something. I was in the US for the New Year's and during the flight i read Brzezinsky's last book. Everyone knows that Obama listens to him blindly and from what i have understood Mr Brzezinsky is fully convinced by Mr Davutoglu and has let the "reform" of the Middle East to Turkey. His book has a lot of inconsistencies, but this is another issue.

At this point i come to Mr Banerjee's comment, who is obviously a Turk and as a Turk he is struggling to find a nice past and i do not blame him for this, it is hard to find something Turkish to be proud of, I am really sorry to state this, but this is the truth and the worst part is that if you do not face your past you will not be able to inherit a good past to your children either, that is why i am so strict with you.

I am really worried when people talk of the Ottoman Empire, i believe it is the first step after starting talking about Nazism. Let me make my self clear. The Western Analysts follow Mr Davutoglu to what he has written as "flourishing" minorities during the Ottoman Empire and respect to the Christian minorities during the Ottoman Empire. Back then the Turks in the Ottoman empire were hardly a majority, the Muslims were a Majority no doubt, but they were not all Turks, even though the Ottomans were not able to earn any money from the Muslims, because they could not tax them. Guess who paid the taxes.......They needed the flourishing christian communities as they needed the Jews from Spain, because they could not tax anyone else, so the truth is that the Christians were working three times as hard to bring the money, in addition the Turks in majority were illiterate and they could not become public servants, the Greeks had the educational tradition and were people of science so they were working as public servants, so the Ottomans did not have any other option again! In addition the Ottomans were stealing the male children from their Christian families, for "educational" purposes as another Turk who comments in this blog has written once and these kind of statements make you cry. The Christians were not exactly allowed to keep their traditions and whenever the Ottomans wished invaded, stole and killed, so this does not mean exactly "respect".

But what happened when the Christians were a burden to the Turks? I have written a lot of times these things and even though i do not like to repeat my self, i have to, genocides and Pogroms!

As for the rest of your comment proves clearly that Islam is a political system based on Fundamentalism, the nationalism in the way we mean it int he West is not exactly the same for the Muslims and it has to do with religion, i mean how else can someone explain that because the US fought the war in IRAQ the Muslims blamed the Arab Christians!

You are also right that in the West being a Christian means nothing more than what it is, that you follow that religion and people do not make discriminations and that is why we do not make religious wars any more, but the solution you are proposing is wrong, the Christians of the Middle East should not beg for what it is rightful theirs and the West should not let them submit, as you propose!

Best Regards to All!


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Title Commenter Date Thread
Christianity in the M|iddle East [44 words]Janice MermikliJun 29, 2014 17:32215655
798% is the magic number [221 words]A guestDec 27, 2012 02:43201959
7And now the vanishing Copts of Egypt [303 words]dhimmi no moreDec 25, 2012 17:45201890
9Just a few comments [179 words]AlexandrosDec 24, 2012 14:40201839
1A reply to Alexandros [570 words]Kepha HorDec 24, 2012 19:59201839
1Dear Mr. Alexanadros [243 words]Debanjan BanerjeeDec 31, 2012 10:19201839
2Welcome back Debanjan Banerjee [189 words]PrashantJan 1, 2013 05:49201839
1Dear Mr. Prashant [458 words]Debanjan BanerjeeJan 3, 2013 10:00201839
1Happy New Year! [626 words]AlexandrosJan 4, 2013 15:53201839
1Our dear Deb and his madrassa [216 words]dhimmi no moreJan 5, 2013 08:40201839
3Morsi and the leopard! [330 words]dhimmi no moreJan 5, 2013 09:46201839
1our dear Deb is saying that Iran is a democarcy! Sobhanallah! [259 words]dhimmi no moreJan 5, 2013 09:57201839
1Charity starts at home [160 words]dhimmi no moreJan 5, 2013 10:04201839
1Hi Prashant [329 words]AAAJan 5, 2013 22:45201839
1Islamic delusions [56 words]dhimmi no moreJan 6, 2013 17:06201839
1Dhimmi needs a reality check [108 words]Ali BabaJan 30, 2013 02:13201839
2Justifying the absurd and in this case the murder of 90M Hindus by the Muslim invaders of India [387 words]dhimmi no moreJan 30, 2013 19:26201839
2Guiding the perplexed and lost tablighees [1014 words]dhimmi no moreJan 31, 2013 13:57201839
1the Christian exodus will cause more and more Muslim extremists [168 words]BaskintaApr 30, 2012 07:16195334
BRILLIANT [18 words]FREDA FLOODMar 13, 2010 20:23170087
1Ironic isn't it? [49 words]uha1May 12, 2009 23:25155322
2Christians never won when they carried the sword [118 words]baskintaApr 30, 2012 07:31155322
how sad [139 words]gajabOct 28, 2007 21:08112537
3Consequences.. [164 words]donvanJul 17, 2007 09:39103850
1Deja vue all over again [100 words]yuval brandstetter MDJul 5, 2007 12:26103034
5Disappearing Christians [127 words]gary fouseJul 7, 2007 15:18103034
You're right yuval brandstetter [183 words]WarrenSep 18, 2008 07:23103034
West bowing to Islam [125 words]ZeenaOct 24, 2011 10:21103034
I am not surprised [71 words]italianJan 14, 2006 18:2031624
4Disappearing Christians in the Middle East [378 words]mahendran JacobJul 17, 2007 18:5031624
To Mahendran Jacob [192 words]Kepha HorDec 24, 2012 20:0831624
Why does America's Educational & Legal "Elites" hate Christians? [191 words]BruceApr 4, 2014 19:1931624
To Bruce [14 words]Kepha HorApr 8, 2014 17:2231624
4Disappearing Christians [203 words]Herb BurackSep 10, 2004 11:3716888
1Why Americans are so obsessed against the Pope? [54 words]italianJan 14, 2006 18:1416888
Why are so many Christians disappearing in the Middle-East? [399 words]Lujack SkylarkAug 15, 2007 11:2916888
3Rise of the Beast (Daniel 7:19-20 & 7:24 & Revelation 17:12) [111 words]Lujack SkylarkAug 17, 2007 12:2216888
3Obssession with the Pope [119 words]Kepha HorDec 24, 2012 20:1516888
1Now For the Update [1241 words]TomOct 23, 2013 11:3316888
1The Pope represents some 1.2 Billion+ Roman Catholics [600 words]Lujack SkylarkOct 24, 2013 23:0416888

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