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The real danger: libel laws
Reader comment on item: [Douglas Card and] My Day in Court

Submitted by Irfan Khawaja (United States), Dec 7, 2004 at 15:33

This story is yet another proof that the libel laws should simply be thrown out. If I spread falsehoods about someone, the falsehoods can only harm him if the falsehoods are believed. (Example: If I spread the rumor that Daniel Pipes is really part of a conspiracy based on the planet Neptune, who will that harm--him or me?) But if the harm in a false rumor comes from its being believed (not its falsity per se), why not sue everyone who believes it? The proposterousness of that last outcome shows the preposterousness of the very idea of libel laws. What a waste of time, effort and resources!

Even in this case, who believes that the legal procedure has led to the truth's coming out? For all we actually know, Card could really espouse the beliefs he once espoused, and for all we know, Pipes and Schanzer are not authentically convinced of his retraction. (Pipes very carefully says, "Mr Schanzer and I *said* we were convinced...." That doesn't mean they were convinced in the usual, colloquial sense of that word; it means that they were sufficiently convinced for legal purposes so that the case would be dropped.) The whole thing is a pointless charade. Or rather it has one and only clear purpose: it puts money in the pockets of the lawyers.

Imagine a person who (unlike Pipes and Schanzer) doesn't have the wherewithal to hire a good private attorney, and (unlike Card) doesn't have access to pro-bono representation. If he's accused of libel, what is he supposed to do? Go bankrupt?

Pipes is wrong that "free speech" is alive and well. He only says that because he happened to win this case. And he happened to win it because he's probably got a good attorney. Not true for the rest of us.

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Lawsuits and the left-wing [21 words]Octavio JohansonDec 26, 2004 17:23
My Day in Court [186 words]Judith SchechterDec 8, 2004 13:37
My Day in Court [31 words]KamathDec 8, 2004 09:52
Truth always comes to the surface. [10 words]Mary EdingerDec 8, 2004 09:44
Thank you, Mr. Pipes [13 words]Gary GoldsteinDec 8, 2004 09:31
"My Day in Court" [29 words]Menahem DunskyDec 8, 2004 08:16
Congratulations [97 words]Hari IyerDec 8, 2004 00:43
Commenter Irfan Khawaja misses the point [135 words]AlexDec 8, 2004 00:39
No need to worry [45 words]Alex SabyDec 7, 2004 23:27
Congratulations! [6 words]Harold FoxDec 7, 2004 21:24
OUTRAGEOUSLY EXCELLENT WORK! [9 words]JohnDec 7, 2004 20:56
Congratulations! [24 words]John W. McGinleyDec 7, 2004 20:14
Free speech [108 words]Peter J. HerzDec 7, 2004 19:49
Sleight of Hand [172 words]Robin DienstmanDec 7, 2004 19:18
Anti-Semitism/Zionism/Israel IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS [535 words]Hinda BlasDec 7, 2004 18:09
Hitler and Bush birds of a feather [122 words]Judah Fenton md.Mar 2, 2006 21:06
Who are the real baby killers? [112 words]T.A.Dec 7, 2004 17:08
Freedom isn't free [55 words]Larry E TooleyDec 7, 2004 16:38
⇒ The real danger: libel laws [302 words]Irfan KhawajaDec 7, 2004 15:33
Lawsuit outcome [19 words]LeeDec 7, 2004 15:11
Your Day in Court Was Excellent! [62 words]Dr. Phil CorsonDec 7, 2004 13:07
The Jewish Problem, again [44 words]Kenneth S. BesigDec 7, 2004 11:42
Good Lawyers? [20 words]Howard VeitDec 7, 2004 11:26
Freedom of speech [206 words]Robert KleinDec 7, 2004 10:12
My Day in Court [20 words]Joe Halbach,SrDec 7, 2004 09:59
Fundamentalist Muslims are poised [79 words]G.BisvasDec 7, 2004 09:43
Millions support your work [41 words]Jerry GreenbergDec 7, 2004 09:13

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