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The conspriacy factor

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Submitted by John W. McGinley (United States), Dec 13, 2010 at 13:37

Fine interview with good insights. Not much to disagree with. But but your reference towards the end concerning your previously artculated conspriacy theories in general (and the vulnerability of Islamic culture to entertain such) resuurected in me an objection which I had back when you articulated those views. My limited point here is that good intentions on these sorts of things constitute the pavement which leads to hell. Truth suppressed is, in the final analysis, never a good thing.

The major Jewish-oriented "conspiracy" relative to 9-11 is so puerile that it has gained immense credibility in predictable circles. But its very prominence has the effect of keeping the REAL BUT TANGENTIAL role of Israel relative to 9-11 shrouded. Further, what was perpetrated by Israeli Intelligence in this sorry episode within a espisode was a genuine mitsvah./////One knows that Israeli Intelligence in the USA in 2001 was both strong and subtle. that's fine. Suvrival depends upon good intelligence, especially with regard to a powerful ally.///// Gearge Tenant, Waht a piece of work! Head of the CIA in the Clinton Administration and, most curiously, retained in the Bush Administration in the same sesnitive position. Anti-Semite? Maybe. Who knows what is in the hearts of men. Certainly he harbored anti-Israel sentiments which were sometimes vicious. (He had his training in the Arabist State Department.) I suspect that in his position in the CIA he came to have knowledge of Senior Bush's role in covering up certain connections in the Kennedy assassination around teh time of the Congressional investigations into that coverup.

As LBJ used to say of Hooever: "Better that he be in the tent pissing out rather than out of the tent pissing in." So Tenant retained his position. As you will see Bush (W) and Tenant were blackmailing each other in a deathly power struggle. Bush ended up with the stronger suit. One remembers Tenant's famous "slam dunk" favor in making the fictitious claim that there were WPD in Iraq in support of the Cheney/Bush fetish of finishing off Hussein. Bush continued to hold the upper hand and eventually got Tenant to resign with a pussycat promise of silence which has lasted to the present time. What did Bush have on Tenant? A lot. And when he eventually came to substantiate with hard evidence what had happened Tenant was history./////What I say now I found in the "Ferderation Reporter" a Jewish newsletter in NE PA about two weeks or so after 9-11. A small piece about Tenant and Israeli Intelligence in the USA. A small piece which was never reprised and which curiously disappeared from curculation.///// It appears that Israeli Intelligence uncovered in the USA uncovered a Islamic/Arabist plot having to do with destroying the World Trade Center. They communicated this information to certain CIA agents with whom they were tight and the info promptly was sent to Tenant. Tenant hit the roof when he discovered the size and subtlety of the Israeli Intelligence network in the USA. He did not send the info to Bush (we are now speaking aobut two days before 9-11). Rather he desparately sought independent confirmation of this report from American Intelligence services. They found nothing. ((Itself an embarrassment, as it would turn out, for Tenant.)) Tenant sat on the information.

The whole WTC horror could have been avoided. Israeli Intelligence was shocked that the Americans were not acting on what they had reported to to American Intelligence. As the clock ticked down to hours they set in motion a sub-rosa phone communication to as many Jews in the vicinity (or who were schduled to be in the vicinity) who were known to be able to keep things mum about the real and present danger. Thus the incrediby low attendance of Jews at a nearby school and a much lower than usual number of Jews who ended up in the two towers on that horrible day.///// That's all. It really was a mitsvah. Nothing to be ashamed about. Tenant had the most to be ashamed about. So too with Bush. He became so proccupied with the balckmail dual he was having with Tenant that he lost his perspective and ended up compensating with an unnecessary war in Iraq which split the post 9-11 unity of spirit which was so strong after 9-11. "Of all sad words of mice and men, the saddest are these: 'What might have been.' "


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Israel has a policy [101 words]yuval Brandstetter MDDec 14, 2010 12:00180946
Policy of Survival a Reality of Fact [243 words]M. ToveyDec 14, 2010 19:11180946
Oh! How I wish that were true! [53 words]There is NO Santa ClausDec 14, 2010 23:58180946
Technology is on our side, and so is China [149 words]yuval Brandstetter MDDec 16, 2010 09:14180946
Fairy Tales [197 words]There is NO Santa ClausDec 19, 2010 01:09180946
The conspriacy factor [733 words]John W. McGinleyDec 13, 2010 13:37180914
5Israel HAS a policy [131 words]There is NO Santa ClausDec 13, 2010 08:18180902
2Call it Clinton style [619 words]Jay1Dec 12, 2010 21:03180892
Israel should state it's commitment to the whole set of democratic laws and values [254 words]DemsciDec 12, 2010 04:56180876
Does "being built' only imply a process that has started and will never end? [131 words]Mladen AndrijasevicDec 11, 2010 06:18180859
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1Correct!!! [127 words]JaladhiDec 11, 2010 20:18180858
A logical and well established interview [111 words]Rafi LaufertDec 11, 2010 04:26180857
1What path Israel to take; what path the world to take? [457 words]NuritGDec 10, 2010 20:10180851
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3No moderate Islam, no moderate Muslim!!! [321 words]JaladhiDec 11, 2010 19:58180847
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