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in response to reader comment: "...the moral and operational bankruptcy of the Olmert government in Israel" -- Dr. Daniel Pipes

Submitted by Ron Thompson (United States), Apr 16, 2008 at 10:55

I'm sure I can come up with a short list, but who said, "Israel can only negotiate with an enemy who has lost"?

This is an important thought which should be frequently said, if not hammered into the skulls of, all those in Europe and in both parties in America who think it makes sense to even try to negotiate with Hamas or Hezbollah, or for that matter with the threadbare figure of Abbas, who has neither the political strength or moral courage to budge from a negotiating position that Israel must return to the pre-'67 borders and surrender East Jerusalem.

My own phrasing of this thought has been to say that the Arabs in general and the Palestinians in particular must suffer a MORAL defeat before any chance of a lasting peace can occur. This is necessary with or without (more) military defeats of either conventional or terrorist Moslem violence against Israel or the West.

The models are what happened to Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan, which of course also involved utter military defeat, but also Soviet Russia, which, fortunately for us and them, did not require outright military defeat and an unconditional surrender.

These are, in my mind, the only same geopolitical thoughts and models with which to approach the otherwise endless and ominous position of 400 million Arabs, or a billion-plus Moslems worldwide, that the very existence of 5 million Israelis is an intolerable "offense" to Moslem sensibilities and to "Islam", the world's only major religion which has no concept of nonviolence in its theology, and indeed, no Golden Rule in its teaching.

The longer we fail to learn this, the higher the costs to everybody, costs which move from the Israelis and luckless and leaderless Palestinians, but go on to include all humanity.

Ron Thompson

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Title Commenter Date Thread
Israel, This is a National Disgrace. [149 words]maura collinsApr 23, 2008 21:27126642
Sderot---suicide on the installment plan [136 words]Alaska PaulApr 16, 2008 23:21125883
It's a pity that Olmert is setting the stage for Holocaust II [70 words]M.D'SouzaApr 16, 2008 12:28125843
Double Truth [30 words]Francesco MangasciàApr 15, 2008 11:05125716
Wrongly directed criticism [297 words]Ron ThompsonApr 15, 2008 10:59125714
S'derot Rockets [14 words]Jean FriedbergApr 15, 2008 10:58125713
1000 years of Arab nothing [46 words]mickey spiegelApr 9, 2008 23:15125235
Shame Shame! [42 words]Na'ama NolonApr 8, 2008 08:58125051
Shame on Israelis and North American Jews [158 words]James BurkeApr 12, 2008 06:43125051
See the positive [422 words]Archimedes2Apr 7, 2008 12:30124935
Saving the Palestinian Children [66 words]Rochelle MichaelsApr 7, 2008 20:44124935
Good examples! [178 words]Archimedes2Apr 8, 2008 18:23124935
Saving the Palestinian Children [21 words]Rochelle MichaelsApr 12, 2008 16:02124935
Hope in the children [215 words]Archimedes2Apr 12, 2008 21:59124935
"...the moral and operational bankruptcy of the Olmert government in Israel" -- Dr. Daniel Pipes [103 words]Rochelle MichaelsApr 6, 2008 16:24124858
Who said it? [299 words]Ron ThompsonApr 16, 2008 10:55124858
Peace can only be achieved when Israel negotiates with an enemy that has lost the war. [35 words]Rochelle MichaelsMay 3, 2008 22:02124858
Nice Plan [52 words]GennadiyApr 6, 2008 01:00124801
This Makes No Sense . . . [75 words]ploniApr 6, 2008 00:07124797
Indeed it is a marvelous idea. [33 words]YnnatchkahApr 5, 2008 20:28124785
More to the point... [64 words]Abram GreenbergApr 5, 2008 18:24124774
Fruits of Modern Jewish Liberalism: Jew-icide [77 words]James BurkeApr 5, 2008 18:15124773

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