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Submitted by cassano (Canada), Jan 6, 2007 at 23:22

Hi every one

I think that the middle east is a mess because it needs more strong men that we can control , because there is a great deal of apathy and a general acceptance of corruption and since half of the population ( women ) effectively has no voice due to Islam , only strong men can control these people ,they only respect force , they are tribal and their respect of force comes from their tribal nature , the west is not tribal and cant think in a tribal way , that's why president Bush is failing in Iraq , he imagines a better culture their than really exists and refuses to operate like Saddam did , by working the tribal leaders and offering them bribes , that they understand , all that makes the west great ( liberty , Simi-democracy , capitalism ,limited free speech . ect ..) they don't like , understand , or respect .

lets face the truth, Islamists "think" they are teaching the world a better way but they can only teach us medieval logic and have been responsible for keeping the Muslim world down and behind the rest of the world, for the whole of the twentieth century and is on route to screwing up the twenty first century for Muslims, and you know what! , the Islamists don't care what we think about their backward philosophy and ideology. it's liberals that care too much about the Muslim street and inflaming the Muslim street , you would think that by now even the liberal would see through the staged evens that we call the Muslim street . Ridiculous lefties.

" war is never the answer " is ironically the liberal battle cry. indecisive , weak ,politicians war is not the answer , when we have wars we use force, and force used correctly gets results .when people say that there is no military solution they don't really know that for sure. those are liberal talking points that are employed to slow or stop the west from defending themselves. and liberals do this because they love all the poor little people of the third world and believe that the west is the big bad wolf . the rest of us know that the third world has it's own wolves and only a strong man can develop in that part of the world.

Who made who, was it Saddam that made Iraq the way it is or was it Iraq that made Saddam?

Answer: Iraq was there before Saddam and he was a product of that culture.

That's why the strong man is so popular in the third world, because when they are part of the population they are victims and when one of them rises to power they love the power they always secretly craved so they could give a little pay back.

In the west we like power too, but we don't settle our elections with the gun, so we are all aware that we could be ousted and put in prison if our crimes are bad enough. the Muslims never accept responsibility for their weaknesses and blame the west for every thing . we are responsible for some things, that's for sure, but in the eyes of the Muslim street , uncle Sam is the root of all their problems. they better understand that ( from what I have been noting around the internet ) people are losing their patience and tolerance for these constant outbursts on the Muslim stree,t and if they are very unlucky , we might stop trying to bring them democracy and go back to supporting more strongmen , more than we already are .

To defeat the creeping vine of Islam, the west has to be hit again in a very catastrophic manner so as to wake the west up and convince it that peace under the current situation is not possible. After such a devastating attack the west could:

1) shut up the socialists in the whole west ,who through their stupidity are creating a show down between the Christian and secular west ( what a combination right ? ) against the first generation of immigrant's children from the Muslim world and Islamists who want to force feed us sharia morning ,noon ,and night and convert us to Islam .

2) crack down on the Muslim malcontents. it's fun to watch when liberals seen or meet in person or watch a true believer caught saying what they really think about the west on TV or on the streets (all to common now) in western cities. the liberal is either silent or having to defend those ridiculous people. when will they understand that they are seen as a cancer within the west buy the Muslims, as infidels to be dealt with well when it's time.

3) Establish a police state temporarily to regain control.

4) Accept a national identity card.

5) And take immigration control seriously.

6) Then the west will find who did it and punish them as we done in Iraq, Afghanistan. further payback will be much more extensive.

First the liberal left has conspired to weaken the west not to open us to Islamic threats. they believe they are doing what is best for everyone, and the Muslim threat simply is taking advantage of their naivet̩, and as a result, the "fascist right" will have to spill blood in the desert and on the streets of Europe and America to clean it up. and yes I know Iraq РIraq - Iraq, thank you Alex Baldwin (you big jack ass). I know I probably spelled his name wrong, who cares, not I.

If the left thinks Iraq was a big deal . wait till they see what price has to be paid by their Muslim friends to clean up the next Islamic atrocity committed in the west. man is it really going to have to happen before we are all on united and on the same page?

One can't talk to Muslims because they believe they are being victimized and are as such, in a defensive posture. they are either not listening because they believe we are lying to them, or they know the truth and are ignoring us so they will not have to give us an honest answer.

So what to do, what to do. The answer is nothing, because what should be done is considered politically incorrect and verboten. By the master race .yes I said it and I'll say it again, the master race, you know what I mean.

Let's wait until the inevitable happens and then we can react, after all, the concept of preemptive war is so distained by the left that they will ninny and nanny us with their shenanigans if we don't listen.

I just hope payback is sweet and severe because the left deserves it more than the Islamists because they are facilitators.

Cassano

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Title Commenter Date Thread
creeping vines [1160 words]cassanoJan 6, 2007 23:2271923
Voltaire On Iraq [27 words]G.GlazerNov 26, 2006 23:4067439
No contradiction [37 words]OctavioNov 27, 2006 14:2067439
Get out of Iraq ASAP [19 words]OctavioNov 25, 2006 16:3167330
Strongman [180 words]Mitzi AlvinNov 24, 2006 15:0267195
Allawi?!! Been there done that. [116 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Francis BrookeNov 24, 2006 11:3367174
"Could a New Strongman Help?" [198 words]Johanna StephensNov 24, 2006 10:3967163
Perfection [83 words]Julian ZedNov 24, 2006 10:1967160
Why didn't Iraqis vote for Allawi? [34 words]Roger McKinneyNov 22, 2006 11:4766970
It's all about the Middle East [77 words]Mike GNov 18, 2006 08:0466491
Democracy and Iraq [388 words]VinodguptNov 16, 2006 14:5066339
Dodge City [184 words]JoeNov 16, 2006 14:4466337
Democracy? That is too optimistic [365 words]mike bitNov 15, 2006 21:5366267
Rethinking Iraq strategy [310 words]DennisNov 13, 2006 13:3766006
Power Share Will Resolve Conflict In Iraq [78 words]skmillerNov 13, 2006 10:5765990
How about a little responsibility... ? [29 words]MikeNov 13, 2006 03:3865972
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