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Reader comment on item: Fellow Conservatives, Please Reject Conspiracy Theories
in response to reader comment: Whoever has "hard proof" could submit it to the court of law. Trump did, and was thrown out. End of story.

Submitted by Doctor Weasel (United States), Apr 26, 2022 at 14:33

David, I stated above 'Many of the election-related lawsuits were stopped due to standing, and were never heard on the merits'. Perhaps you are not familiar with the US legal system. A court can reject a lawsuit over 'standing', which is the right to bring a suit. If a suit is rejected for lack of standing, the arguments, evidence, etc., are never heard by the court. If the court hears the case and makes a decision, that decision is made 'on the merits', meaning the arguments, evidence, etc. of the case. Again, Trump's lawsuits were decided on standing, not merits. For constitutional cases, who has standing may be an unresolved question, with no prior case law. Still, the position taken by many courts seems to be that nobody has standing. State suits have been rejected, individual suits including those by Trump and his allies have been rejected. It is very misleading to say 'Trump did, and was thrown out' considering that the evidence was not heard. It is definitely not the 'End of story'. Please look a little deeper.

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Reader comments (22) on this item

Title Commenter Date Thread
Weaponize. [71 words]Albert E.May 30, 2022 22:07282175
1correct diagnosis [111 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
David IIMay 23, 2022 23:43281716
1Now its obvious, jabs ARE DANGEROUS. [49 words]PiotrMay 7, 2022 05:36280771
1Travesty of democracy [699 words]Joseph SMay 1, 2022 15:17280444
Proof That Democratic Ideals Needed People of Integrity to Enforce Protection of American Ideals [173 words]M ToveyMay 2, 2022 23:20280444
Final Evidence that Conspiracy to Deny True American Ideals Could Not be Quarantined Conservatively [100 words]M ToveyMay 9, 2022 18:10280444
1Conspiricies or crimes in progress? [50 words]Dan SchnittkerApr 27, 2022 14:33280218
2How an element of truth helps make useful lies [284 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
DaveApr 22, 2022 22:21280014
Ok, I ordered your book from Amazon kindle [25 words]DaveApr 24, 2022 19:12280014
I reviewed your conspiracy book on Amazon kindle [11 words]DaveApr 28, 2022 21:09280014
2Please look a bit deeper [142 words]Doctor WeaselApr 22, 2022 16:27280002
1Hadn't the courts famously thrown out all the election fraud claims of Trump/Trumpists, without exception? [17 words]DavidApr 22, 2022 17:53280002
Better watch Charlie Kirk's channel , hard proof of 2020 theft [1 words]BrApr 22, 2022 18:01280002
Whoever has "hard proof" could submit it to the court of law. Trump did, and was thrown out. End of story. [25 words]DavidApr 23, 2022 14:52280002
2Definitions & background [179 words]Doctor WeaselApr 26, 2022 14:33280002
1Complicities Abound in Conspiratorial Obsessions Searching for Truth [24 words]M ToveyApr 26, 2022 19:29280002
1Resorting to Conspiracy Theory When the Truth is Being Manipulated [301 words]M ToveyApr 22, 2022 15:30279998
1In short, make America great [1 words]DavidApr 22, 2022 18:08279998
1Recovering that Which Made America Great Requires a Commitment Too Few Are Willing to Make [218 words]M ToveyApr 26, 2022 00:20279998
Naah, these idiotic conspiracy theories are mostly believed in by Republicans [69 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
DavidApr 22, 2022 14:16279995
Patrols. [41 words]Albert E.May 30, 2022 22:11279995
Wishful thinking [19 words]Dvar DeaApr 22, 2022 11:13279991

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